John Terry [Merged]

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

You might care if MC get points deducted next season?

Didnt happen to Chelsea so why would it happen to us ?

Because we are a few years down the line, perceptions and punishments have changed and we are not one of the chosen ones yet ;o)

 

[Naws]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

 

[Balti]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Fair play mate. I think the point was you were midtable - 6th at best up till 2003 and you average attendances even after all your success and investmane over the last few years has not been great. Yes your stadium is not so good but surely with all the money you had if you thought you could fill a bigger ground one would hav been built ala Arsenal with the emirates.

The truth is before Roman Chelsea were just an average mid table side in every sense certainly no bigger than city.

Chelsea had finished in the top 6 and qualifed for Europe for the seven seasons before Roman came. Our attendances are fine. Apart from one of two Champions League minnow matches a few years ago we sell out every game at SB.

Not getting into arguments about this though. Didnt come here to do that.

All conveniently forgetting that Matthew Harding had already bank-rolled Chelsea into the upper reaches of the Premier League before Abramovich appeared. Gullitt/ Vialli etc.

 

[Johnny Tabasco]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Chelsea had finished in the top 6 and qualifed for Europe for the seven seasons before Roman came. Our attendances are fine. Apart from one of two Champions League minnow matches a few years ago we sell out every game at SB.

Not getting into arguments about this though. Didnt come here to do that.

Your attendance are not fine compared to the big UK and european sides !

Even Celtic and Rangers in the joke SPL pub league are much much better supported.

Slightly unfair to compare us to Celtic and Rangers who have two of the biggest fanbases in the world!

We have never said we have the fanbase of Real Madrid, Bayern etc. The club mightve tried to act (embarrassingly) like them at times but the point i was trying to make is that we are better supported than people make out. Obviously we have had taken a lot of prawnies these past few years (duck because they are coming your way too now) and have more visible fans than ever but we do still have a true hardcore support, sadly of which many have now been priced out.

I dont think Chelsea fans have ever kidded ourselves that we are on a par with Arsenal Liverpool, Utd but we just have to stick up for our club when people say we have no history and are only a club the size of Palace or Fulham because its simply not true.

 

[dannybcity]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

Not really.

 

[Project]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Before the Abramovich money it was the Harding money and a huge loan.

 

[Citytillidie69]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

So you are saying Hughes was not in Dubai last week staying in villa near John Terrys ?

I am saying that neither Hughes nor Cook would tap up a player contracted to another club and I am saying that your story from your mate is bullshit.

or maybe they just wouldn't admit it ....unlike Chelsea who had to come clean after photo's were published of C'ashley affair.

Oh yea sure, and if those meetings really happened, of course noone took a picture of Cook and JT or Hughes and JT having a little chit chat right? Bullshit.

All Im saying is Alera has his opinion and you have yours, but you cannot just dismiss his because you think its bullshit. Dubia is the playground of a lot of professional footballers and their bosses ....so you cannot dismiss the fact that players will bump into other players and managers out there...can you ?

Also hypothetically lets say they did tap up JT ....they are not going to do it in a public space are they ?

 

[Johnny Tabasco]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Fair play mate. I think the point was you were midtable - 6th at best up till 2003 and you average attendances even after all your success and investmane over the last few years has not been great. Yes your stadium is not so good but surely with all the money you had if you thought you could fill a bigger ground one would hav been built ala Arsenal with the emirates.

The truth is before Roman Chelsea were just an average mid table side in every sense certainly no bigger than city.

Chelsea had finished in the top 6 and qualifed for Europe for the seven seasons before Roman came. Our attendances are fine. Apart from one of two Champions League minnow matches a few years ago we sell out every game at SB.

Not getting into arguments about this though. Didnt come here to do that.

All conveniently forgetting that Matthew Harding had already bank-rolled Chelsea into the upper reaches of the Premier League before Abramovich appeared.

No he hadnt. He gave money towards the south stand. Thats it.

 

[sniff]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

that just proves the point, they had a good team for about a year in 97,98 then nothing untill they got bought out. before that well 1971 wasnt recent was it, and that fails to add the relegations and piss poor attendance that watched through the tough years. also as we had been told through last season, the uefa and league cup aint worth winning? or are they if another team wins them ? im confused by all the double standards

 

[Shooter 83]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

Thay had money from 2003??

 

[liamctid]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Chelsea had finished in the top 6 and qualifed for Europe for the seven seasons before Roman came. Our attendances are fine. Apart from one of two Champions League minnow matches a few years ago we sell out every game at SB.

Not getting into arguments about this though. Didnt come here to do that.

Unfortunately for you mate, even if you wanted a sensible discussion, which I might add is always welcome on here, your chance has been ruined by the fact we had some little Chelsea tosser on here 5 minutes ago who has now left. You'll be left to take his flack, but don't let that put you off.

To be honest you can't have a sensible discussion on here, as the percentage of sensible people is very low compared to the number of rag-minded City fans.

I still believe that our fans are not this silly in reality, and its just a cyber thing.

 

[Barry Conlons wig]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

What?


2003-2004 2nd -----Abramovich arrives
2002-2003 4th
2001-2002 6th
2000-2001 6th
1999-2000 5th
1998-1999 3rd
1997-1998 4th
1996-1997 6th

I wouldn't call that average or midtable.

you seem to have forgotten this:


League position 1992 - present
2009-2010
2008-2009 3rd
2007-2008 2nd
2006-2007 2nd
2005-2006 1st
2004-2005 1st
2003-2004 2nd Abramovich arrives
2002-2003 4th
2001-2002 6th
2000-2001 6th
1999-2000 5th
1998-1999 3rd
1997-1998 4th
1996-1997 6th money ploughed into the team under rudd gullitt
1995-1996 11th
1994-19 95 11th
1993-1994 14th matthew harding invested big in the team
1992-1993 11th

notice the money invested an prior to that your mid table Mediocrity,,, you seem to have selective memory regarding your history you fucking balloon

 

[alera]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

That's not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is, if Cook or Hughes would so something like that, they would not do it in broad daylight, at public places where everyone can see them.

But how do you know that ? Who fucking cares anyway it will all come out in the wash.

 

[auction294]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Oh yea sure, and if those meetings really happened, of course noone took a picture of Cook and JT or Hughes and JT having a little chit chat right? Bullshit.

In your opinion ! Maybe there are pictures and they will come out in the comming weeks ! Who can say. Who cares really....

You might care if MC get points deducted next season?

Prey tell why City would have a points deduction. Is it because;

a) The owners have more money that the Sky4?
b) The Chicken Balti pies are ridicously overpriced?
c) Gary Cook's brother is bigger than yours
d) It's just not fair, boo fucking hoo

get a grip,

 

[Citizen Green]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

Manchester City

European Cup Winners Cup
Winners (1) 1970

League Championship
Winners (2) 1936/37, 1967,68

FA Cup
Winners (4) 1904, 1934, 1956, 1969

League Cup
Winners (2) 1970, 1976

Not much difference if you ask me pal and that's not including the Charity Shield which is also considered a majour honour.

 

[Balti]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Fair play mate. I think the point was you were midtable - 6th at best up till 2003 and you average attendances even after all your success and investmane over the last few years has not been great. Yes your stadium is not so good but surely with all the money you had if you thought you could fill a bigger ground one would hav been built ala Arsenal with the emirates.

The truth is before Roman Chelsea were just an average mid table side in every sense certainly no bigger than city.

Chelsea had finished in the top 6 and qualifed for Europe for the seven seasons before Roman came. Our attendances are fine. Apart from one of two Champions League minnow matches a few years ago we sell out every game at SB.

Not getting into arguments about this though. Didnt come here to do that.

All conveniently forgetting that Matthew Harding had already bank-rolled Chelsea into the upper reaches of the Premier League before Abramovich appeared.

No he hadnt. He gave money towards the south stand. Thats it.

I think you'll find that he bank-rolled some top quality players too; Gullit and Vialli amongst them. They helped transform Chelsea into a team that was then able to secure its first trophy in 26 years before Abramovich appeared on the scene.

 

[Neil McNab's Tash]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Oh yea sure, and if those meetings really happened, of course noone took a picture of Cook and JT or Hughes and JT having a little chit chat right? Bullshit.

In your opinion ! Maybe there are pictures and they will come out in the comming weeks ! Who can say. Who cares really....

You might care if MC get points deducted next season?

Prey tell why City would have a points deduction. Is it because;

a) The owners have more money that the Sky4?
b) The Chicken Balti pies are ridicously overpriced?
c) Gary Cook's brother is bigger than yours
d) It's just not fair, boo fucking hoo

get a grip,

Sorry you missed a very obvious point!

a) The owners have more money that the Sky4? put together!!

 

[Timbobs]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

No, before Roman came they had only won the league once (1954-55), FA Cup 3 times (1970, 1997, 2000), League Cup twice (1965, 1998), Cup Winners Cup twice (1971, 1998 when few people cared about it and lasted only another year), Super Cup once (1998)

So befrore Roman came Chelsea had only won 9 major honours

City had won the league twice (1936-37, 1967-68), FA Cup four times ( 1904, 1934, 1956, 1969), League Cup twice (1970, 1976) and Cup Winnners Cup (1970)

9 major honours for City too, so before Roman came in, both had won the same amount. Don't see the "lot more trophies" part myself.

 

[Balti]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Also, I'm not a Chelsea supporter, but someone compared City with Chelsea before money, I think you may be a little off..

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Winners (2): 1971, 1998
UEFA Super Cup
Winners (1): 1998

League Cup
Winners (4): 1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

FA Cup
Winners (5): 1970, 1997, 2000, 2007, 2009



For a team that were no bigger than city they have a lot more trophies before Ab, no?

No, before Roman came they had only won the league once (1954-55), FA Cup 3 times (1970, 1997, 2000), League Cup twice (1965, 1998), Cup Winners Cup twice (1971, 1998 when few people cared about it and lasted only another year), Super Cup once (1998)

So befrore Roman came Chelsea had only won 9 major honours

City had won the league twice (1936-37, 1967-68), FA Cup four times ( 1904, 1934, 1956, 1969), League Cup twice (1970, 1976) and Cup Winnners Cup (1970)

9 major honours for City too, so before Roman came in, both had won the same amount. Don't see the "lot more trophies" part myself.

Before Matthew Harding, and then Abramovich, City had won more.

 

[Pigeonho]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

I had a little pop at a fellow blue last week, which I promptly apologised for, but got a barrage of replies saying, 'take it to the PM', 'stop it girls or you'll be deleted'... etc etc. Why doesn't this count for whats currently being moaned at on this thread? It's fucking stupid, argueing about history, who has what etc. No-one appears to be able to say anything on here without being slagged off, however I thought that was the point of a forum, to air views? Fucking mongs on here.