John Terry [Merged]

[BibbyBlue85]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

He realises that there is no longer any challenge at Chelsea. He will walk into the team, and they will win trophies whether he is there o not. At City, he hasn't got the 'club stalwart' tag hence would not be considered an automatic pick when he's 35. He sees a hard-working, professional team been crafted and may feel he can add to that. At City, he would make a huge difference to us, and would get in on the ground floor.

Also, money.

Except for the highlighted part, it's just your opinion.

No challenge at Chelsea? What have you been smoking? Since 2005 we have won two league titles, two League Cups and two FA Cups and had just one(!) trophyless season out of the last five while reaching CL semis five times in the last six seasons.

Remind me again what have MCFC won after spending a fortune over the last two years? It's
quite possible that City will become a force in English football in the next few years but there's no guarantee on how fast or smooth this transition is going to be. Big money is a great help but this is the most competitive leaugue in the world we're talking about. Your last season's away record and overall performance suggests that you've got a long way to go before
starting comparisons with Chelsea let alone looking down on them.

Learn to crawl first, and all that.

Can i just ask what a Chelsea fan is doing in a City Forum????

Bricking it;)

Thought so, thanks for clearing that up fixer ;)

 

[Pam]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

He realises that there is no longer any challenge at Chelsea. He will walk into the team, and they will win trophies whether he is there o not. At City, he hasn't got the 'club stalwart' tag hence would not be considered an automatic pick when he's 35. He sees a hard-working, professional team been crafted and may feel he can add to that. At City, he would make a huge difference to us, and would get in on the ground floor.

Also, money.

Except for the highlighted part, it's just your opinion.

No challenge at Chelsea? What have you been smoking? Since 2005 we have won two league titles, two League Cups and two FA Cups and had just one(!) trophyless season out of the last five while reaching CL semis five times in the last six seasons.

Remind me again what have MCFC won after spending a fortune over the last two years? It's
quite possible that City will become a force in English football in the next few years but there's no guarantee on how fast or smooth this transition is going to be. Big money is a great help but this is the most competitive leaugue in the world we're talking about. Your last season's away record and overall performance suggests that you've got a long way to go before
starting comparisons with Chelsea let alone looking down on them.

Learn to crawl first, and all that.

Chelsea are on record as saying there has been a formal change to their recruitment strategy and their salary structure and there will be no exceptions. City have no such limitations. And because the Chelsea squad is old and they
can't afford to find the absolute best as replacements any more. They are not a spent force but their squad is not good enough to win the league. Perhaps we should think twice before giving them a chunk of money.

 

[ShaunyWrightWright]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Ned is in my center of defense next season. Maybe one day he can be captain of the side like Terry is to Chelsea, this just seems wrong all the way around, but I guess we're all in for whoever will come now it seems.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

We will give you 45m Arsene

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2518172/Arsenal-slap-a-40m-price-tag-on-Cesc-Fabregas.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... regas.html</a>

Would love it .................

 

[BLUEMOONBAZ]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Your last season's away record and overall performance suggests that you've got a long way to go before

Away yes but our home form was top 4 ,without a decent forward line

 

[bizzbo]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Martin Samuel nails Kenyon's hypocritical comments nicely. sorry if it's up already
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1197668/Chelsea-s-Peter-K-funnier-original.html?ITO=1490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... l?ITO=1490</a>

Chelsea's Peter K, even funnier than the original

Chelsea are said to be furious about Manchester City's audacious bid for their captain, John Terry. Now we can all laugh about this, but there is a serious point to be made. On second thoughts, scrub that, let's all just laugh.

This is the club who were caught sitting down for what was described as 'general chit-chat' with Ashley Cole, while he was still an employee of Arsenal. The club who paid ?5million for two Leeds United youth players rather than face investigation by the Football Association over alleged illegal approaches. And they are now upset over City making a formal bid, in writing, for Terry. Oh, go on, if Peter Kenyon went on stage at the Palladium with this stuff, nobody would ever pay to see Peter Kay again.
Peter Kenyon and Peter Kay

Chuckle brothers? The Chelsea chief executive and the real Peter Kay (right) make a fine double act

General chit-chat was the phrase used by Cole to describe his meeting with Chelsea while a contracted Arsenal player in his hilarious autobiography, which is sadly now quite hard to find, although apparently if you look hard enough you may discover a warehouse with the odd one or 200,000 lying about.

The transfer was later completed, but the negotiating process was handled so ethically that, before the deal took place, Chelsea were fined ?300,000 and their then manager Jose Mourinho ?75,000 for tapping up. Cole was fined ?75,000, while his agent Jonathan Barnett was fined ?100,000 and suspended for 18 months.

Then there was the case of Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo, two Leeds youngsters who moved to Chelsea amid accusations of illegal approaches. A complaint was lodged with the Football League and passed on to the Football Association. Chelsea always disputed the claim, insisting an offer in the region of ?200,000 was made. The fact they then settled on a compensation agreement of ?5m, however, would suggest the club did not fancy going through that pesky investigation procedure again.

And what value for money. Woods featured in two FA Cup games in 2007 for Chelsea (he was trusted to come on for 11 minutes when Chelsea were 4-1 up at home to Macclesfield Town and for 12 minutes when they were winning 3-0 against Nottingham Forest), while after an unsuccessful loan at Port Vale, Taiwo was last heard of trying out for Seattle Sounders in Major League Soccer. So a good bit of business for the club and the boys there.

What has provoked Chelsea's anger this time is that City scheduled a meeting over the transfer of Daniel Sturridge (a young player who City nurtured but who has now joined Chelsea) and used that to make a formal offer for Terry. When this newspaper found out what had happened, Chelsea went on the record in the strongest terms dismissing City's interest. Privately, they are hopping mad at City's brazen behaviour, having already turned down a bid last season.

Yet what is so different? City are a club with an ambitious owner and vast wealth who want to get to the top in football and know this requires the best players. Sound familiar? Wasn't that Roman Abramovich's stance after buying Chelsea six years ago? Was he not meant to have made an equally gauche offer to Arsenal for Thierry Henry, the one that David Dein equated to 'parking Russian tanks on our lawn, and firing ?50 notes at us'?

There is so much new money in football that maybe Chelsea think of themselves as old money now. Maybe they feel that, having been around since 2003, Abramovich's regime is in a position to lecture and disapprove and take a moral stand.

And maybe Garry Cook, the City chief executive, does have a little to learn about the way to conduct transfer business. But all Chelsea have to do is keep saying No. As for City, just tell Kenyon it was general chit-chat. You can be sure he will understand.

 

[The Fixer]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Rite im off to bed, hope tomorrow brings some suprises;) goodnight everyone.

 

[BibbyBlue85]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Ned is in my center of defense next season. Maybe one day he can be captain of the side like Terry is to Chelsea, this just seems wrong all the way around, but I guess we're all in for whoever will come now it seems.

Not at all mate, When someone like Terry (natural born winner, England Captain, Immense leader) is linked with us then it is a huge shock and one that gets the juices flowing. Ned's is going to be a great defender and future City captain in the future but imo at the moment you cannot compare Terry to Ned's. Terry is the ideal person for Ned's to learn from so we win both ways if we get Terry because we will have a great CB now and in the future with Ned's

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

Martin Samuel nails Kenyon's hypocritical comments nicely. sorry if it's up already
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1197668/Chelsea-s-Peter-K-funnier-original.html?ITO=1490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... l?ITO=1490</a>

Chelsea's Peter K, even funnier than the original

Chelsea are said to be furious about Manchester City's audacious bid for their captain, John Terry. Now we can all laugh about this, but there is a serious point to be made. On second thoughts, scrub that, let's all just laugh.

This is the club who were caught sitting down for what was described as 'general chit-chat' with Ashley Cole, while he was still an employee of Arsenal. The club who paid ?5million for two Leeds United youth players rather than face investigation by the Football Association over alleged illegal approaches. And they are now upset over City making a formal bid, in writing, for Terry. Oh, go on, if Peter Kenyon went on stage at the Palladium with this stuff, nobody would ever pay to see Peter Kay again.
Peter Kenyon and Peter Kay

Chuckle brothers? The Chelsea chief executive and the real Peter Kay (right) make a fine double act

General chit-chat was the phrase used by Cole to describe his meeting with Chelsea while a contracted Arsenal player in his hilarious autobiography, which is sadly now quite hard to find, although apparently if you look hard enough you may discover a warehouse with the odd one or 200,000 lying about.

The transfer was later completed, but the negotiating process was handled so ethically that, before the deal took place, Chelsea were fined ?300,000 and their then manager Jose Mourinho ?75,000 for tapping up. Cole was fined ?75,000, while his agent Jonathan Barnett was fined ?100,000 and suspended for 18 months.

Then there was the case of Michael Woods and Tom Taiwo, two Leeds youngsters who moved to Chelsea amid accusations of illegal approaches. A complaint was lodged with the Football League and passed on to the Football Association. Chelsea always disputed the claim, insisting an offer in the region of ?200,000 was made. The fact they then settled on a compensation agreement of ?5m, however, would suggest the club did not fancy going through that pesky investigation procedure again.

And what value for money. Woods featured in two FA Cup games in 2007 for Chelsea (he was trusted to come on for 11 minutes when Chelsea were 4-1 up at home to Macclesfield Town and for 12 minutes when they were winning 3-0 against Nottingham Forest), while after an unsuccessful loan at Port Vale, Taiwo was last heard of trying out for Seattle Sounders in Major League Soccer. So a good bit of business for the club and the boys there.

What has provoked Chelsea's anger this time is that City scheduled a meeting over the transfer of Daniel Sturridge (a young player who City nurtured but who has now joined Chelsea) and used that to make a formal offer for Terry. When this newspaper found out what had happened, Chelsea went on the record in the strongest terms dismissing City's interest. Privately, they are hopping mad at City's brazen behaviour, having already turned down a bid last season.

Yet what is so different? City are a club with an ambitious owner and vast wealth who want to get to the top in football and know this requires the best players. Sound familiar? Wasn't that Roman Abramovich's stance after buying Chelsea six years ago? Was he not meant to have made an equally gauche offer to Arsenal for Thierry Henry, the one that David Dein equated to 'parking Russian tanks on our lawn, and firing ?50 notes at us'?

There is so much new money in football that maybe Chelsea think of themselves as old money now. Maybe they feel that, having been around since 2003, Abramovich's regime is in a position to lecture and disapprove and take a moral stand.

And maybe Garry Cook, the City chief executive, does have a little to learn about the way to conduct transfer business. But all Chelsea have to do is keep saying No. As for City, just tell Kenyon it was general chit-chat. You can be sure he will understand.

great read once again from Martin ;)

 

[Garry.Cook]

Re: Chelsea reject Terry offer [Merged]

I'm quite sure that the papers talk 95% crap but the common opinion is that we are prepared to give him £300,000 per week! I know we have billionaire owners but I am starting to feel a bit queasy at these amounts in that every new player we're linked with is 'rumoured' to be earning £50,000 a week more than the last one.

I understand that at our stage of development money is a massive incentive to join us but if these stories are true then I am really worried about how this might work out.

Just my opinion but I think now we should be aiming for the same calibre of player, but one who is willing to play for us because they have seen our new signings (including Tevez and Eto'o hopefully) and would accept a MASSIVE performance/league position bonus at certain stages in the season. Getting these players on a 5yr £80M contract seems a little risky and likely to lure moneygrabbers rather than people willing to put sweat on the blue shirt!

Despite this, still VERY excited about what's happening and hopeing to god all of these signings go through, we keep a big, strong, happy squad and keep focussed and determined on getting a good league finish (5th or better)