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OrigamiNinja said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.

IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................


subs from.... Taylor, Vince, Boj, RSC, SWP, Ned, Petrov, Bellamy

Id go with that line up, could be a toss up between De Jong and Kompany but its just about spot on!

this.

the notion that Kompany is a class above de Jong seems based only on last season. i've been interested in both players since well before they came to City and i am sketpical of that notion, and consider them fairly similar in terms of ability. i think and expect when it comes to actually picking the team it will be a question of whose current form/training is more impressive at the time of selection.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Kinkys Blue Socks said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.
IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................


subs from.... Taylor, Vince, Boj, RSC, SWP, Ned, Petrov, Bellamy

Classic. Says the bloke who leaves out our second best player last year.

Kompany must start. Whether thats at CB pushing Lescott to LB, or in place of De Jong. As much as I like Nige, Kompany is a class above him.

i think you will see a hell of a lot of people agreeing with my side, i rate Vince highly but don't think Hughes paid 18mil for De Jong to stick him on the bench.

my "clueless" comment was more based at people playing 3 at the back and Superman on the wing etc.

Agree. I also think that those who gave De Jong some abuse last year (strangely for never giving the ball away) will see just how good he is this year especially if he had that team listed above around him!
 
Rammy Blue said:
Kinkys Blue Socks said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.
IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................


subs from.... Taylor, Vince, Boj, RSC, SWP, Ned, Petrov, Bellamy

Classic. Says the bloke who leaves out our second best player last year.

Kompany must start. Whether thats at CB pushing Lescott to LB, or in place of De Jong. As much as I like Nige, Kompany is a class above him.

i think you will see a hell of a lot of people agreeing with my side, i rate Vince highly but don't think Hughes paid 18mil for De Jong to stick him on the bench.

my "clueless" comment was more based at people playing 3 at the back and Superman on the wing etc.

Fair enough on the clueless comment.

I think your mistaken if you think the amount of money paid will have an impact on team selection though. De Jong was fantastic last year but IMO Kompany would have got palyer of the season if it wasn't Ireland's form.

He also played half the year with that niggling toe injury and was still awesome!! The guy is a machine. He's tough tackling, an unbelieveable passer of the ball and reads the game so well. De Jong is about the closest thing to Makalele since Makelele, which is obviously a massive compliment, but he's no big Vinny. Future Captain for me...
 
Todays Belfast Telegraph article for those who haven't read it...


Abramovich blocks Terry's move to Manchester City

Monday, 13 July 2009

Roman Abramovich told John Terry that he will not be allowed to leave Chelsea and that the club will not match the extraordinary £280,000-a-week offer from Manchester City in a tense meeting between the pair on Saturday.
Chelsea now have their captain and most famous player at loggerheads with the billionaire who has bankrolled the club's success for the last six years. The meeting was understood to be frosty, with Terry telling Abramovich that he wanted the club's permission to talk to City — essentially signalling his desire to leave. Abramovich refused to yield.
The England captain will be in training today for a double session at Cobham with manager Carlo Ancelotti but he is considering his next move. He recognises that refusing to play for Chelsea is not an option and he has no intention of going on strike. He does not want to go with the squad to America on their pre-season tour, for which they depart on Thursday. However, he has been told he is going whether he is fit or not.
While Terry realises it is a difficult situation for Chelsea — they have rejected one offer of £30m from City — he now wants the chance to join a club who have set their stall out as Premier League contenders.
He feels that the 17 years he has given Chelsea as schoolboy and professional is sufficient service and that he should be allowed to leave, as many famous players have been over the last six years.
He now has one major option left which would be to go public with his dissatisfaction in a newspaper and try to force Chelsea into selling him. This tactic is regarded as a last resort and has been used to varying degrees of success by players in the past. Gareth Barry tried it to force his move to Liverpool from Aston Villa last summer and failed.
Terry told Abramovich he wanted to speak to City because it was a financial opportunity he could not pass up, either for himself or for his family. On offer from City is a staggering deal worth £280,000 a week that will last four years at least. He currently has a deal that will pay him £21m (£135,000 a week) over the next three years — not bad, but after it expires there is no guarantee that he will earn the same.
Terry also told Abramovich that he was unsure of the future for Chelsea and whether the owner would continue to fund the kind of transfers that would allow the club to keep pace with the likes of City, Manchester United and Liverpool as well as Real Madrid.
Terry is unhappy at how long it has taken for him to get an audience with Abramovich and he feels the club's very robust public stance — adopted at the press conference to present Ancelotti — has not helped matters. He does not feel the same rules have been applied to the likes of Deco and Ricardo Carvalho. Both have been agitating for a move this summer.
Chelsea now find themselves in an acutely difficult position where Ancelotti's new regime faces chaos before the season has even begun. The reaction from supporters to selling the captain would be hostile to say the least, even if the club made it clear that the responsibility for it fell squarely upon the shoulders of Terry.
The discussion is now being conducted directly between Terry and Abramovich who met in Wentworth, after the 28-year-old had attended a charity event with Right to Play, Chelsea's international charity partner. Terry recognises that whatever the likes of chief executive Peter Kenyon, director Eugene Tenenbaum or Ancelotti say, only Abramovich makes the big decisions.
City have been quiet over Terry this week, preferring to allow the player himself to try to negotiate a way out of the club. They have been told that there is no price that will get the player although that was before the conversation between Abramovich and Terry on Saturday. If the Russian decides to cut his losses and sell Terry then he will want more than the initial £30m bid, an extraordinary price for a 28-year-old centre-half.
While City expect to present Carlos Tevez as their latest signing this week, they also hope to put together a new, improved offer for Terry that will focus Chelsea's minds on selling the player. Regardless of whether they land the player or not, they have caused chaos at a club that will be one of those they hope to overtake for a Champions League place next season.
Manager Mark Hughes is with the squad in Germany on pre-season training but is prepared to return to speak to Terry. The City executive chairman Garry Cook is expected to offer Terry the kind of deal that was prepared for Kaka in January with a signing-on fee and even a charitable institution in the player's name.
In the meantime, Chelsea have further muddied the waters in their hierarchy of command by promoting Frank Arnesen to sporting director. Formerly operating under the title of director of youth development and chief scout, the Dane now seems to be treading on Kenyon's toes. Chelsea said yesterday that Arnesen would report to Kenyon but “help assist the overall long-term football and business strategy of the club”.
As head of the club's academy Arnesen has been spectacularly unsuccessful, squandering large transfer fees on unproven teenagers whose talent has failed to materialise. However, despite planning an exit strategy last season, he seems to have kept his job.
 
[quote="Kinkys Blue Socks]
He also played half the year with that niggling toe injury and was still awesome!! The guy is a machine. He's tough tackling, an unbelieveable passer of the ball and reads the game so well. De Jong is about the closest thing to Makalele since Makelele, which is obviously a massive compliment, but he's no big Vinny. Future Captain for me...[/quote]

i think mine was based on first choice XI if everyone 100% fit however in reality it is all about options and covering loss of form, injuries etc.

it would be tough leaving Vince out but if he starts the season like he did last year then it will be a very tough selection for Hughes on the 15th Aug which is what we want.
 
zeusbheld said:
OrigamiNinja said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.

IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................


subs from.... Taylor, Vince, Boj, RSC, SWP, Ned, Petrov, Bellamy

Id go with that line up, could be a toss up between De Jong and Kompany but its just about spot on!

this.

the notion that Kompany is a class above de Jong seems based only on last season. i've been interested in both players since well before they came to City and i am sketpical of that notion, and consider them fairly similar in terms of ability. i think and expect when it comes to actually picking the team it will be a question of whose current form/training is more impressive at the time of selection.

Correct, the only players certain off a starting place will be those that are consistent on a regular basis, nobody will be aloud to drop under a certain standard, if they do they will find themselves sat on the bench.
 
"Regardless of whether they land the player or not, they have caused chaos at a club that will be one of those they hope to overtake for a Champions League place next season."

For the price of a fax to Stamford Bridge we've really messed up Chelsea's pre-season, plus their big new manager's unveiling... this is our position in the game now and it's fantastic..
 
Rammy Blue said:
Kinkys Blue Socks said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.
IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

and you think were in for Adebayor?? get real.NO CHANCE ARE WE
 
Citycitytid said:
Rammy Blue said:
Kinkys Blue Socks said:
Rammy Blue said:
fook me there are some clueless people when it comes to picking a side.
IF we get Tevez, Terry, Lescott and Adebayor then this would be the opening line up imo....

..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

and you think were in for Adebayor?? get real.NO CHANCE ARE WE

Adebayor... Not good enough for City!
 
..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

This is a mouth watering line-up but since when are we signing adebayor?! RSC will be playing that lone front man- a player we actually have...
 
smiles said:
..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

This is a mouth watering line-up but since when are we signing adebayor?! RSC will be playing that lone front man- a player we actually have...

that's a top 4 line-up ...
 
jellert said:
smiles said:
..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

This is a mouth watering line-up but since when are we signing adebayor?! RSC will be playing that lone front man- a player we actually have...

that's a top 4 line-up ...

Thats a top 2 line up.
 
smiles said:
..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

This is a mouth watering line-up but since when are we signing adebayor?! RSC will be playing that lone front man- a player we actually have...

read Josh's thread, City v Big 4 - hence why i said "IF" we signed him.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
jellert said:
smiles said:
..............................Given...........................

Micah/Zab.........Terry.......Lescott.........Bridge

......................De Jong......Barry..................

.........Tevez...........Superman........Robbie......

............................Adebayor.......................

This is a mouth watering line-up but since when are we signing adebayor?! RSC will be playing that lone front man- a player we actually have...

that's a top 4 line-up ...

Thats a top 2 line up.

haha.. Champions line-up??
 
.................given......................
richards....terry.....onouha.....lescott

swp..............ireland...barry............robinho

...................rsc...tevez...................

that is dangerous
 
scottyboi said:
.................given......................
richards....terry.....onouha.....lescott

swp..............ireland...barry............robinho

...................rsc...tevez...................

that is dangerous

Sorry have to disagree, all 4 good to great players in their own right but I think we would get destroyed especially away from home with those 4 in midfield. I am especially concerned with Robbie playing left midfield, I know he played on the left last year but that was more of a left forward role. Its nice to have formation options but I believe that our main formation will be 4-3-3/4-5-1!
 
OrigamiNinja said:
scottyboi said:
.................given......................
richards....terry.....onouha.....lescott

swp..............ireland...barry............robinho

...................rsc...tevez...................

that is dangerous

Sorry have to disagree, all 4 good to great players in their own right but I think we would get destroyed especially away from home with those 4 in midfield. I am especially concerned with Robbie playing left midfield, I know he played on the left last year but that was more of a left forward role. Its nice to have formation options but I believe that our main formation will be 4-3-3/4-5-1!

this was for at home defiantly away it should change.
 
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