John Terry [Merged]

[rodders]

Bob, we've got our very own John Terry in the making in the form of Ben Mee. Will take a few seasons but imo he has many attributes similar to the way JT plays.

There isn't really another JT out there but we will improve our defence greatly with Lescott if we do manage to land him. Either way I have faith that MH will recruit quality defenders to take us to the next level regardless of who they may be. I'd guess we'll know in the next 7-10 days.

In years to come do you think that we could have a back four of Richards, Onuoha, Mee and McGivern. By this time we'll be in the champions league so are these good enough?

This is the JT thread but hey ho....
Regarding to Ben Mee, yes imo he'll be a top quality CH. Doesn't rely on pace and he's not particulary tall, but his reading of the game, timing of the tackle and heading prowess are 1st class. He just lacks experience at the moment.
All opinion of course but Ben, Ned and Micah(fingers crossed he has a 2nd wind) give me high hopes for the future of our back 4 in the mid to long term.

 

[johnmc]

Look people, John Terry was never ever going to come straight out and say he was never going to leave Chelsea. He needed us to maintain our interest and he needed Chelsea to think it was a real possibility he could leave.

If he came out at day one and said he was never ever going to leave Chelsea do you think they would offer him a new deal? I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

OK so what you say could very well be true. But the other possibility is that he hasn't said anything because he is in fact thinking of leaving. Sometimes we "typical City!" fans are so pessimistic that we just can't bring ourselves to believe that something marvellous is about to happen.

And given what we are reading at the minute which would you say it is likely to be then?

 

[the god Gerry Gow]

i'm getting irritated by smartarse Blues saying "he was never going to come anyway".

The deal's not dead yet and even if he stays, we certainly got close.

Sorry but fail to see what difference getting close makes. tell you what when Drogba is running through in the last minute of the cup final can we stop play and say sorry old son but we nearly had terry covering that run so if you would just give us the ball back there a good fellow.

And for your info am not a smartarse but strangely am allowed an opinion

 

[dannyboy91uk]

There is noway he is worth 250 k a week I think we should just move onto our next target, who would sit on a wage like 80 - 120 k which is understandable in this day and age for a defender the deal John Terry will supposedly get at Manchester City is very stupid. The man isn't anywhere near the likes of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo in terms of class or anything else for that matter besides is supposed leadership skills.

250 k (for a defender is stupid)
Cheaper alternatives and have Barry/Kompany captains.

If he joins Manchester City on the wage reported I will definitely be upset, and even though I will cheer and think oh yes we have a world-class defender the transfer fee and the wage each week shows he is only their for the money and nothing else. Robinho - Adeabayor - Tevez are exceptions but wait 160 K Robinho compared to John Terry 250 K is a massive difference when one is a defender and one is a LW - ST.

 

[BlueMoonWalker]

Nearly 1000 pages and we still haven't a clue what is going on and no nearer to the truth than page 1!

 

[Tony - MCFC]

come on City buy him!

 

[bluemoon32]

1000 ??

 

[Left Peg]

1,000 up so thought I'd share this with you.

I had a dream last night about Terry.... he passed to me, a quick one two and he slotted it home. I went to congratulate him saying 'Good lad John, us sky blues have got to stick together'. He didn't look amused.

 

[elanos thumb]

1000?

 

[meldrew]

1000 pages, he's coming now!!!!

 

[bluemoon32]

1000 ??
lol

 

[mancboy123]

I made this point earlier in the thread about him using us to get a bigger contract. If he is of such value to chelsea why does he need to use another clubs interest as leverage to gain more money and if he loves the club as much as Chelsea fans etc claim he does why is he asking for it?

If all the Chelsea supporters, manager, chairman etc are to believed the conversation would be a simple one. Terry would ask for more money and he wouldnt ask for alot more because he loves the club and wouldnt take the poss, the club would give it to him because he is a symbol and the heart of the club, everyones a winner, we all go home the world keeps turning, no need for press releases, public pressure on him to stay etc.

This hasnt happened, i dont know the reasons and we may never know the reasons. As I keep on saying Chelsea created this, was it to warn us off, was it to heap public pressure on the captain to stay?

If he was so committed to the cause why is this needed. From a Chelseas fans point of view there is many more questions than answers in this whole saga no matter how it plays out.

If he stays and I have said on many occassions that he will, he clearly isnt as valued at Chelski as he thinks he should be or this whole saga wouldnt be necessary IMO.

 

[BibbyBlue85]

I think thats what barry was bought for. He can lead the team gerrard-esq style but we need someone in there to marshal the defence. We need someone well-respected, vocal, strong tackler, good header and can play the ball into feet.
SO back to bobs comments Can anyone suggest any alternatives?

Ned?

Kompany?

I'd say they both fit your description pretty well - I don't really see the need for Terry. Lescott and Ned/Kompany looks an extremely credible alternative to me

I really see the need for Terry. A natural leader, winner, vocal and can calm any situation. We imploaded (sp?) too many times in defence last season, conceded too many goals from set pieces and looked ragged pretty much all season. I agree that Ned's and Kompany could do this but only in a few years time. We need what Terry has got NOW if we want to reach the top4 this season

 

[Dyed Petya]

Look people, John Terry was never ever going to come straight out and say he was never going to leave Chelsea. He needed us to maintain our interest and he needed Chelsea to think it was a real possibility he could leave.

If he came out at day one and said he was never ever going to leave Chelsea do you think they would offer him a new deal? I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

Of course this scenario is a possibility, but that doesn't mean your analysis is definitely correct. Maybe he's a bloke who's just had a stratospheric new pay offer that will set him up for life as far more immensely rich than he would have been, and he's weighing up whether taking up the new challenge that goes along with that against a natural reluctance publicly to burn his bridges with the club where he's spent most of his career and where he has an iconic status. And if that's true, then of course he way well end up staying at Chelsea and of course he's entitled to take his time to decide what's right for him. After all, given his age and injury record, the deal (whether at City or Chelsea) he signs in the next week or two will probably be his last major contract as a professional footballer.

On balance, I go for my version rather than yours. One factor that makes me do so is that City evidently believe that his interest in us is genuine. I have enough faith in the competence of the people at the club to consider that they wouldn't take this view without fairly sound reasons. (What they are we don't know, as they're not public). You may beg to differ, which is your prerogative, of course.

 

[Sleeping_Easy]

I was there when this thread got to 100 pages
On another note my just text me asking if we have vidic as a back up plan if the terry deal doesnt happen. Oh how we've got them scared.
A couple of years ago they would of laughed if we said we wanted one of thier players now thier scared

 

[skybluekings]

1,000 up so thought I'd share this with you.

I had a dream last night about Terry.... he passed to me, a quick one two and he slotted it home. I went to congratulate him saying 'Good lad John, us sky blues have got to stick together'. He didn't look amused.

My God! With that comment, Chelsea fans must be laughing their heads off at us. What are we? 10 years old?

"I had a dream about Terry"? Seriously?!

 

[Left Peg]

1,000 up so thought I'd share this with you.

I had a dream last night about Terry.... he passed to me, a quick one two and he slotted it home. I went to congratulate him saying 'Good lad John, us sky blues have got to stick together'. He didn't look amused.

My God! With that comment, Chelsea fans must be laughing their heads off at us. What are we? 10 years old?

"I had a dream about Terry"? Seriously?!

I did it for a laugh, come on you saw that, yeah? I did have that dream though

 

[Sleeping_Easy]

1,000 up so thought I'd share this with you.

I had a dream last night about Terry.... he passed to me, a quick one two and he slotted it home. I went to congratulate him saying 'Good lad John, us sky blues have got to stick together'. He didn't look amused.

My God! With that comment, Chelsea fans must be laughing their heads off at us. What are we? 10 years old?

"I had a dream about Terry"? Seriously?!

Chillout since when did we care what chelsea fans thought

 

[Nixon_The_Bike_Thief]

if we fail to snag the real john terry, we still need to get a player in the mold of him. im very short on viable options to suggest.

Depends really if your looking for a replacement centreback or a replacement leader, if its a leader then the 4 below are positive influences on there sides due to clear leadership strengths as well as a good technical level (2 CB, 1 CM, 1 RB)

• Gerrard (Red Dippers)
• Puyol (Barca)
• Zanetti (Inter)
• Bordon (Schalke)

Not a definitive list but good leaders on the pitch.

(actually now I thought about it for a moment or two, Bordon would not be a bad option on a few levels. Brazilian (keeps Robbie happy if they get on), Centreback (a position we are looking to fill), 33 (would be a good age to come in for a season or two and help develop Ned, Mcgivern, Mee, Richards etc as his successor) Strong in the air and a leader, also probably at an age and a club where we could prise him away quite easily ?)

 

[Didsbury Dave]

i'm getting irritated by smartarse Blues saying "he was never going to come anyway".

The deal's not dead yet and even if he stays, we certainly got close.

Sorry but fail to see what difference getting close makes. tell you what when Drogba is running through in the last minute of the cup final can we stop play and say sorry old son but we nearly had terry covering that run so if you would just give us the ball back there a good fellow.

And for your info am not a smartarse but strangely am allowed an opinion

My point about getting close was in answer to your unfounded proclaimation that he never had any intention to come.

I believe that is not the case.

And the deal is not dead yet. That's a fact, not an opinion.

So what's the basis for your assertion that he never had any intention of coming to City?