Jonny Evans

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hgblue said:
Because he's not good enough and way too expensive. A total brain fart of a signing. Every single United fan I know is pissing themselves laughing and praying this happens.
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Every single Rag I've spoken to said he was the best out of Jones & Smalling, but being Rags who watched all three in the pub every week, what would they know? Considering Smalling & Jones are still at old Toilet, the mystery deepens...

Can I ask how often have you watched Evans & specifically observed him?

I asked myself the same question & honestly couldn't answer because the only players I ever watch & closely analyse are City players, or the ones we've been linked to. Assuming Pep & Txiki haven't just pulled Evans' name out of thin air, I'd imagine that they've done their homework & were sufficiently impressed enough to go in balls deep for Evans.

OR, maybe not. Perhaps we might have just been so desperate to be rid of Mangala, That the first available CB would do? What dya reckon?
 
waspish said:
Yep there manager! why before he took over that shower of shite Liverpool Everton Villa Arsenal had won more trophies in there history and where only Around 7 in front of us? We all know what put them on the map milked to fcuk as well.

Anyway back on topic I will give Evens the benefit of the doubt when I go and watch my team you can call him waste of money and shite thats what forums are for opinions.
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I really do hope I am wrong. But he wasn't good enough for the shite 4 years ago I don't think he has improved. On a side note my mates son played with him at United and West Brom in his opinion he is a twat
 
I cannot honestly believe anyone on here think Evans for 30 million is good value. Wonder what people would have said about him joining before he was linked with us.
 
My God the overreaction in this thread is something else. Look we all know he's not worth the money being spouted but in this climate we're in with transfers what matters more is if he improves the team and imo he does. He is not close to being a world class player that and doesn't have age on his side at 29 but he still has a lot of football left in him for a defender and is much better than a lot give him credit for. He is a slightly above average defender who for my money is better than both mangala and the current version of stones. Let's not forget this is a player who played a key role in a team that won the league and just missed out on winning it on the last day. In both 2011/12, 12/13 seasons where united finished 2nd and 1st he made 29 and 23 league appearances respectively in those campaigns. Since joining west brom he's been a major part one of the best defensive unit in the past two seasons. Only 8 teams conceded less goals than them last season and only the top 6 teams did so the season before. This is clearly a good defender who pep has realised has the technical ability to thrive in a much better team.

There are a few similarities to this transfer and the one chelsea made of cahill when he was at bolton(outside of the fees). Cahill was also deemed average and a player who wouldn't improve chelsea yet 7 years later he's played a key role in them winning two league titles, played and won in a champions league and europa league final and been voted in the pfa team of the year 3 times. I'm not saying evans could have the same impact but this is a good player who still has years left in him and in the right set up and team could definitely play a role going forward.
 
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Dribble said:
Every single Rag I've spoken to said he was the best out of Jones & Smalling, but being Rags who watched all three in the pub every week, what would they know? Considering Smalling & Jones are still at old Toilet, the mystery deepens...

Can I ask how often have you watched Evans & specifically observed him?

I asked myself the same question & honestly couldn't answer because the only players I ever watch & closely analyse are City players, or the ones we've been linked to. Assuming Pep & Txiki haven't just pulled Evans' name out of thin air, I'd imagine that they've done their homework & were sufficiently impressed enough to go in balls deep for Evans.

OR, maybe not. Perhaps we might have just been so desperate to be rid of Mangala, That the first available CB would do? What dya reckon?
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I would have thought there have been lots of scouts doing the round and yet we are the only daft fuckers to put a bid in for this bang average WBA twat.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
I cannot honestly believe anyone on here think Evans for 30 million is good value. Wonder what people would have said about him joining before he was linked with us.
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30million is the new 1million don'tcha know. That's what I keep hearing anyway.
 
Callum Ramsey said:
My God the overreaction in this thread is something else. Look we all know he's not worth the money being spouted but in this climate we're in with transfers what matters more is if he improves the team and imo he does. He is not close to being a world class player that and doesn't have age on his side at 29 but he still has a lot of football left in him for a defender and is much better than a lot give him credit for. He is a slightly above average defender who for my money is better than both mangala and the current version of stones. Let's not forget this is a player who played a key role in a team that won the league and just missed out on winning it on the last day. In both 2011/12, 12/13 seasons where united finished 2nd and 1st he made 29 and 23 league appearances respectively in those campaigns. Since joining west brom he's been a major part of the best defensive unit in the past twp seasons. Only 8 teams conceded less goals than them last season and only the top 6 teams did so the season before. This is clearly a good defender who pep has realised has the technical ability to thrive in a much better team.

There are a few similarities to this transfer and the one chelsea made of cahill when he was at bolton(outside of the fees). Cahill was also deemed average and a player who wouldn't improve chelsea yet 7 years later he's played a key role in them winning two league titles, played and won in a champions league and europa league final and been voted in the pfa team of the year 3 times. I'm not saying evans could have the same impact but this is a good player who still has years left in him and in the right set up and team could definitely play a role going forward.
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Absolutely Callum. Add in his very impressive performances for NI and it's clear this signing is something we should want to happen.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
In our youth? He was 27 when he did it!

When we were linked with a CB everyone wanted someone to improve the starting 11. Nobody said 'hey let's get Evans he's decent'. Stones will come good but I believe Otamendi is too reckless to be top quality.

Do I think Txiki has a blind spot when it comes to buying centre backs? Course I do, have you missed the fact we buy one every season?
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The fact that most of the CB's we've bought & have left a season later were when Pellegrini was there, but that's another subject altogether.

Also for the avoidance of doubt, 27 was my youth & I've seen worse than spitting in my time. It's a disgusting habit yes, but I'd rather someone gobbed on me than than made me swallow my molars mate I can tell ya! Lol :-)

We have a budget mate, which means we have to maximise it as best we can. If we weren't under the constraints of FFP, don't you think we'd be balls deep in for VVD or similar? As my Mum always says 'Hang your hat where you can reach it', or in our case don't unduly piss off UEFA when we all know they're gunning for City.

I try not to focus on Evans, I look at the window as a whole and think are we better or worse than we were last season? Do you think the squad is stronger , the same or weaker than last season?
 
cjn said:
Signing a fourth choice centerback, truly a nightmare.
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Is this 'fourth choice' argument giving a false impression though? We all know that Pep thinks it's a squad, not a team game, so he'll likely play quite a lot and in a back 3, probably quite often. Then again, if that's the case, it's probably good enough reason for Pep to jettison Mangala.
 
Are the reported figures of £30m true? If thats what Evans is coming for, then we are valuing him close to Bonucci. Makes sense considering there is not much difference in quality.
 
Ballymagash Blue said:
Absolutely Callum. Add in his very impressive performances for NI and it's clear this signing is something we should want to happen.
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Should want to happen? Think you're overreaching a bit there. Accepting there may be nothing else out there would be more apt, until you see the figures quoted..
 
roy.or.r said:
Are the reported figures of £30m true? If thats what Evans is coming for, then we are valuing him close to Bonucci. Makes sense considering there is not much difference in quality.
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What Bonucci cost is irrelevant as we couldn't sign him anyway.
 
Comparing Evans' price with Bonucci is being a bit selective. Why not compare it to the price we paid for Mangala!! And Evans is far superior to the Mangler.
 
spanishblue said:
I really do hope I am wrong. But he wasn't good enough for the shite 4 years ago I don't think he has improved. On a side note my mates son played with him at United and West Brom in his opinion he is a twat
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Look at the scum he looked poor when I did watch em. I'll be going Of what I see with him in a city shirt if he comes and honestly last season when I watched West Brom on few occasions Evens actually looked ok, he might be shite he might just be a quality Back up defender for us.
 
He played for Man Utd and for some he's persona non grata. Forget whether he's any good.

We need cover for Kompany. Last season Kolarov, Stones and Otamendi went to pieces in his absence. I think Evans would be good enough to play in Kompany's absence, and 24 hours on I have not seen one suggestion of a home grown player who could cover for Kompany. That player has to be experienced. We're not looking for a young player who we can develop.
 
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