Jose for City? (merged)

I personally think that reading anything into Mourinho's quotes other than him doing what is best for his club at the present is a bit naive. He does it all of the time, in fact, he's written a chapter of a book about media manipulation somewhere and always states that it should be done for the benefit of the club rather than the manager.

Sorry guys, whilst I agree that Mourinho could possibly be interested in a move to City, I don't see anything in these quotes other than him trying to hype up pressure on others.
 
Re: Jose for City?

hgblue said:
Did he really say that? Sounds like he's having a dig at Mancini with that quote. I respect people who like Mancini and call for stability, but there's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that Mourinho is the man for the job.

He's not afraid to speak his mind. The 9 years undefeated at home just underlines everything about this man to me. I've been an avid Bobby fan since day one but this guy just has the whole package. The issue I see is that he's got 3 years left on his contract at Madrid and I doubt he'd walk. I hope we are monitoring the situation and if the chance ever arose, we should go all out for him. He said on his interview he wants to manage Portugal at the end of his career - "in 10-20 years time".
 
Damocles said:
I personally think that reading anything into Mourinho's quotes other than him doing what is best for his club at the present is a bit naive. He does it all of the time, in fact, he's written a chapter of a book about media manipulation somewhere and always states that it should be done for the benefit of the club rather than the manager.

Sorry guys, whilst I agree that Mourinho could possibly be interested in a move to City, I don't see anything in these quotes other than him trying to hype up pressure on others.

You enjoyed pissing on my bonfire didn't you? :-)
 
Damocles said:
I personally think that reading anything into Mourinho's quotes other than him doing what is best for his club at the present is a bit naive. He does it all of the time, in fact, he's written a chapter of a book about media manipulation somewhere and always states that it should be done for the benefit of the club rather than the manager.

Sorry guys, whilst I agree that Mourinho could possibly be interested in a move to City, I don't see anything in these quotes other than him trying to hype up pressure on others.

There is definitely a valid argument that we are pawns in a bigger game, whether that game is pressure on his own board or pressure on another club.

It just doesn't quite feel like that to me. I don't believe the RM board respond to that kind of pressure, for a start, especially from someone trailling behind Barca.

It sounds to me like he's paving the way to leave Real Madrid. He may even be protecting himself as he believes he'll be sacked. He did it almost exactly the same last season, talking about how he "loved Inter" but hated the press. I've posted on here before, he is clever, he is a manipulator, but I don't believe he'd burn his bridges with City for purely selfish reasons.

It feels right to me this time, more right that this time last year...
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Damocles said:
I personally think that reading anything into Mourinho's quotes other than him doing what is best for his club at the present is a bit naive. He does it all of the time, in fact, he's written a chapter of a book about media manipulation somewhere and always states that it should be done for the benefit of the club rather than the manager.

Sorry guys, whilst I agree that Mourinho could possibly be interested in a move to City, I don't see anything in these quotes other than him trying to hype up pressure on others.

There is definitely a valid argument that we are pawns in a bigger game, whether that game is pressure on his own board or pressure on another club.

It just doesn't quite feel like that to me. I don't believe the RM board respond to that kind of pressure, for a start, especially from someone trailling behind Barca.

It sounds to me like he's paving the way to leave Real Madrid. He may even be protecting himself as he believes he'll be sacked. He did it almost exactly the same last season, talking about how he "loved Inter" but hated the press. I've posted on here before, he is clever, he is a manipulator, but I don't believe he'd burn his bridges with City for purely selfish reasons.

It feels right to me this time, more right that this time last year...
He has fewer options to be blunt. Sure, he could go almost anywhere he wants, but he doesn't want to go just anywhere. He has expectations and this is one situation where FFPR benefits us as well as his travels do. He wants to manage in the big leagues (although I don't think he particularly cares to go to Germany) and he loves England. If he had his druthers, I suspect he would go to the rags to prove he's the only one who can succeed Ferguson; however, that old bastard is unlikely to step down for 3-4 more years... conveniently matching Mourinho's Real contract. Inconveniently, though, dealing with Real is not easy and who knows if he'll stay the 3-4 more years.
 
anymore than 2sheiks said:
Plain Speaking said:
Unfortunately I think if Jose has a choice between us and Chelsea, he would go for his old club, for several reasons: He has already said he still loves them and doesnt like to play against them. He has spoken warmly about returning to London and he still has a house there. He is a family man and the culture, shopping, entertainment etc of London are better than Manchester. He is a born winner and they have a better record of success with and without him.

Having said all this I still think he has tried to line up the United job as Fergie's successor and Fergie will have the biggest say in who succeeds him.
JM would only return to chelski if abramovic had a complete personality transplant and promised never to interfere in team-matters ever again whilst eating humble pie.Abramovic doesn't do humble.Hiddink did very well in tempory charge there and is a close friend of red-rom.He just didn't want the job permanently at the time.He might do now though.
The only way JM would take the job in stretford is if the Qatar royal family took over offering a big budget,with a promise of no interference from the hard-shoulder-shitter. Spuds and liverpool are outsiders,so I think we'd be favourites because it would massage his over-inflated ego.It's a massage that comes with "extras".
When Abramovich sacked Jose I think he underestimated the difficulty of finding a successful manager. After 4/5 managers, Abramovich is older and wiser and will now realise JM is the best manager in the world to deliver his "Holy Grail" the Champions League.
As regards Qatar taking over United, Ajay said something like it was a question of "when" not "if" the takeover would happen in the future.
Dont get me wrong I would be delighted if Jose Mourinho joined us, but I can see him using us to increase his wage packet at another club, (as Alves and others have done).
 
taconinja said:
Didsbury Dave said:
There is definitely a valid argument that we are pawns in a bigger game, whether that game is pressure on his own board or pressure on another club.

It just doesn't quite feel like that to me. I don't believe the RM board respond to that kind of pressure, for a start, especially from someone trailling behind Barca.

It sounds to me like he's paving the way to leave Real Madrid. He may even be protecting himself as he believes he'll be sacked. He did it almost exactly the same last season, talking about how he "loved Inter" but hated the press. I've posted on here before, he is clever, he is a manipulator, but I don't believe he'd burn his bridges with City for purely selfish reasons.

It feels right to me this time, more right that this time last year...
He has fewer options to be blunt. Sure, he could go almost anywhere he wants, but he doesn't want to go just anywhere. He has expectations and this is one situation where FFPR benefits us as well as his travels do. He wants to manage in the big leagues (although I don't think he particularly cares to go to Germany) and he loves England. If he had his druthers, I suspect he would go to the rags to prove he's the only one who can succeed Ferguson; however, that old bastard is unlikely to step down for 3-4 more years... conveniently matching Mourinho's Real contract. Inconveniently, though, dealing with Real is not easy and who knows if he'll stay the 3-4 more years.


It isn't just the team which Ferguson is ultimately responsible for holding together.

Such is the situation at United, he is the bridge between keeping the fans onside and the boardroom.

Outside of the Glazers, Ferguson knows the true realities of what United must continue to do for the good of the club.

United putting Jose in the manager's chair creates more problems than it solves for them.
 
Posted the below in the Mancini in/out thread, but relevant to this one also

Mancini in for me


BUT if we had a realistic chance of getting Jose with a commit to a 5 year plan then I'd be all over it...

How we get that commitment from Jose, maybe a sliding scale of reward for him

1st Year Contract £3M
2nd year Contract £5M
3rd year Contract £7M
4th year Contract £9M
5th year Contract £10M

£3M bonus for each league title, £1M for each Cup and £5M for a Champions league???
 
I've heard two opinions about the Torres buy:

a. Torres was bought with a secondary purpose in mind - to show JM Abramovich is (still) serious.
b. Abramovich made a mistake in buying Torres as he was obviously not Ancelotti's signing, and Abramovich has done another Schevchenko which JM cannot help but note.
 

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