Hence why I asked the Question. His youth gives him props. But when I watch him there is nothing exceptional about his game. He shows heart, but then again, he is from Uruguay, they all tend to show heart. And then he plays for Athleti, where everyone including the strikers work like crazy on defense. Can't say this is uniquely a function of his talent. But then again, at such a young age, you have to give him some props.
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Jose Gimenez
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Pairing Gimenez with Stones makes more sense than Laporte if you think about it. Laporte and Stones are kind of similar, while Gimenez is a different type. More brutish.
Stones/Laporte = Pique
Gimenez = Puyol
Gimenez is fast and strong and a reader of the game - would probably be a leader next to someone like Stones - but he is very good on the ball as well.
Bonucci... But we aren't after him.
Gimenez isn't a ball-playing centreback, either. He is definitely closer to Otamendi than Boateng or Bonucci.
Completely disagree. He's definitely better on the ball than anyone we currently have, and he is a brilliant passer of the ball. Last season especially you'd quite often see him play lofted balls over the top for Griezmann or Torres to run onto. I haven't seen any but I'm sure any decent scouting video would have a compilation of his passing - one of the reasons he is so good is his well roundedness. He can do the skilful, on the ball stuff, but he's also incredibly fast and strong, and a beast in the air, and reads the game brilliantly.
Which is why he'd cost £50m+ and why Atletico won't let him go!
Neville Kneville
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Hence why I asked the Question. His youth gives him props. But when I watch him there is nothing exceptional about his game. He shows heart, but then again, he is from Uruguay, they all tend to show heart. And then he plays for Athleti, where everyone including the strikers work like crazy on defense. Can't say this is uniquely a function of his talent. But then again, at such a young age, you have to give him some props.
It's tough to judge.
Savic for example turns like an oil tanker & sticks his foot out, hoping, 1v1. He's shit. Atleti are a special case. It's hard to know how any of their defenders will do, in a different kind of team. You only find out, when they have to play in a different style. One might swim another might sink.
Slovakia have just kept out Sturridge, Vardy, Kane, Rooney etc but anyone think their defence would do the same if Pellegrini was in charge with the team playing playing 'his way' ? Or that Huth etc could have won the league playing in a Pellegrini team ?
A Pep cb is diffrent again of course.
r.soleofsalford
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I don't want us to be associated with any player supporting that type of hair style.
+1
I think Otamendi is a fair comparison.Gimenez is fast and strong and a reader of the game - would probably be a leader next to someone like Stones - but he is very good on the ball as well.
Completely disagree. He's definitely better on the ball than anyone we currently have, and he is a brilliant passer of the ball. Last season especially you'd quite often see him play lofted balls over the top for Griezmann or Torres to run onto. I haven't seen any but I'm sure any decent scouting video would have a compilation of his passing - one of the reasons he is so good is his well roundedness. He can do the skilful, on the ball stuff, but he's also incredibly fast and strong, and a beast in the air, and reads the game brilliantly.
Which is why he'd cost £50m+ and why Atletico won't let him go!
I think Otamendi is a fair comparison.
Then you haven't watched one or both of them properly. Gimenez is a far better passer.
Sure. Outside of about 1/3 to half of Athletic's games this season and watching him live at Lincoln Center just a week or so ago, you are probably right. Then again, on the other hand, I've never seen Otamendi either. I mean if we ignore every game he played this season that is.Then you haven't watched one or both of them properly. Gimenez is a far better passer.
Sure. Outside of about 1/3 to half of Athletic's games this season and watching him live at Lincoln Center just a week or so ago, you are probably right. Then again, on the other hand, I've never seen Otamendi either. I mean if we ignore every game he played this season that is.
I don't care how many games you claim to have watched, You obviously weren't watching Gimenez closely if you think he's a similar level to Otamendi on the ball.
Sergio Picasso Aguero
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If we end up paying his 50m release clause and say 40m on Stones, add that to the 70m we spent on Otamendi and Mangala we will have splashed out over 150m on 4 CBs none of which you can claim are world class. Frightening.
MillionDollarDream
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Hard to get world class CB's from current clubs and hard to mold the ones we got into world class. Hopefully that changes now.If we end up paying his 50m release clause and say 40m on Stones, add that to the 70m we spent on Otamendi and Mangala we will have splashed out over 150m on 4 CBs none of which you can claim are world class. Frightening.