Jose Mourinho.

C_T_I_D said:
Blue2112 said:
Genuine question do you think Hughes can ever win us the title?

Yes. But it is going to take a very long time to do so but once we are at that level we will stay at that level and that is the difference between Hughes and Mourinho. If you want short-term success then go with Jose, if you want sustained but eventual success go with Hughes.

I think our owners are very patient people who, as long as their targets are met, will not fire the manager (hopefully). We have always lacked continuity and fired manager after manager and if we do the same again then we haven't really learnt much and we're just starting again really aren't we which was the same under Pearce, Sven etc.

Mourinho likes to travel and he always needs a fresh challenge which is why he isn't staying at Inter Milan (allegedly) so what makes anyone believe that he'd stick it out here and we wouldn't have the same problem yet again of a manager leaving us and a new man coming in and us starting again? It happens time and time again.

Again a genuine question but does anyone know what their targets are to be met and how do we know they are patient people?
 
Only the owners know their targets alongside probably Garry Cook, Mark Hughes and his backroom staff. I think they have displayed their patience through not sacking him prior to this discussion given that at one stage he had one win in sixteen away matches for which other premier league chairmen would have got rid of the manager immediately after realising that record.

I think a solid foundation is required. I would rather wait them extra five or six seasons for a long line of trophies rather than the quick success and the odd trophy. I think the good thing about Mark Hughes is that he is a manager that can build teams over and over again and if he is given enough time then he'll do that here and make a good job of this.

Another thing I'd say is that if Hughes leaves Manchester City there is absolutely no way he will get a job with better resources or a better fan base than our own and I think he knows that full well himself. He has a huge opportunity that for the benefit of his career he has to be successful in otherwise it will reflect on him that he bit off more than he could chew. I do not think that will be the case though, I am quite confident of this.
 
Blue2112 said:
C_T_I_D said:
Blue2112 said:
Genuine question do you think Hughes can ever win us the title?

Yes. But it is going to take a very long time to do so but once we are at that level we will stay at that level and that is the difference between Hughes and Mourinho. If you want short-term success then go with Jose, if you want sustained but eventual success go with Hughes.

I think our owners are very patient people who, as long as their targets are met, will not fire the manager (hopefully). We have always lacked continuity and fired manager after manager and if we do the same again then we haven't really learnt much and we're just starting again really aren't we which was the same under Pearce, Sven etc.

Mourinho likes to travel and he always needs a fresh challenge which is why he isn't staying at Inter Milan (allegedly) so what makes anyone believe that he'd stick it out here and we wouldn't have the same problem yet again of a manager leaving us and a new man coming in and us starting again? It happens time and time again.

Again a genuine question but does anyone know what their targets are to be met and how do we know they are patient people?

Another point is that the owners don't really owe Hughes anything as he wasn't their appointment in the first place.
 
de niro said:
Blue2112 said:
Genuine question do you think Hughes can ever win us the title?
i think he can but not quick enough, if a manager the likes of jose wants to come you just can't turn that down.

I would turn him down as I would like to see us win things AND play attractive football. Not going to happen anyway.
 
PhuketBlue said:
de niro said:
Blue2112 said:
Genuine question do you think Hughes can ever win us the title?
i think he can but not quick enough, if a manager the likes of jose wants to come you just can't turn that down.

I would turn him down as I would like to see us win things AND play attractive football. Not going to happen anyway.

It's a bit of a myth (perpetuated by the press) that Chelsea played unattractive football. Some of the stuff he got them playing was fantastic.
 
people seem obsessed with the "he won't come yet, we are too much work in progress, risky etc" when discussing Jose whereas i see it as a no-brainer.

fuck knows i might be wrong but i think we have a core of about 14 players that on paper would look like a decent proposition to him. Then he gets the opportunity to spend more money than any manager in history plus wages approx double what he is on at the moment and i just can't see why he would not want the job.

he has stated that he wants to come back to the prem, he will NOT go to rags nor back to Chelsea as billionaires don't like admitting they were wrong in sacking him, Arse have got wenger, dippers have got the spanish waiter so where else other than the mighty blues?

IF he got the chance to add a couple of hundred million worth of players in the summer to the 14 decent players we already have then without a shadow of a doubt we will finish top 4.

City need to break the top 4 asap as Platini et al could attempt to change the rules with salary caps or transfer caps at any point and if we are not there when it happens we will never get there.

ADUG have the available funds to employ the VERY BEST and as such imo there is no way Hughes will continue. I don't deny that he would do a decent enough job for us given the time but it just ain't going to happen.

Hughes will be gone.
 
When Mourinho went to Chelsea he took over a team which already had the basis of a top side. IF he came to City he hasn't got that yet. For City to win the League how many of the current 15/16 of our best players would still be in the squad?
 

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