Joshua Kimmich

[SouthernPlastic]

I’ve never really seen the hype about him tbh, doesn’t seem to do anything extraordinary. Tidy enough, but there’s better younger options out there.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I’ve never really seen the hype about him tbh, doesn’t seem to do anything extraordinary. Tidy enough, but there’s better younger options out there.

I'm also uncertain if he's spot on for us but many people, not just City fans said the same about Gaz Baz, a player you had to watch in person to appreciate.

 

[Kinkladze's crazy skills]

Of course he’s better than Lewis right now, however he is ten years older. It depends what you want - short term, ready made success or to develop a player who could end up being better.

Obviously we could have both, but I think long term it would effect Lewis if we signed Kimmich

Or Lewis could learn from somebody who will massively contribute to his already great understanding of the game for his age.

Game time isn't always equal to development just look at how Pep used to get slaughtered for not playing Foden at 17, despite that he had played around 50 games by the time Paul Scholes at the equivalent age had even made his debut for the rags.

Patience is a virtue at times there's no need to rush the development of a top young prospect when he can learn off others around him, stylistically Kimmich is probably the perfect mentor for Rico to learn from and if Kimmich does sign he'll learn a lot more just from being around him.

I’ve never really seen the hype about him tbh, doesn’t seem to do anything extraordinary. Tidy enough, but there’s better younger options out there.

People used to say the very same about Gareth Barry up and down the country they didn't understand his contribution, like Barry for us and others Kimmich does the simple things right he doesn't tend to make many mistakes in a fully organised team, he generally improves the performance levels of the teammates immediately around him, he adds a peace of mind to his teammates that he'll have them covered so they can perform extraordinary things themselves.

As John's Cruyff said regarding mistakes, "Football is a game of mistakes. Whoever makes the fewest mistakes wins."

Kimmich is a top class player there's no doubt about it he keeps things simple and doesn't do the extraordinary, he allows his teammates to do that instead and he was the bridge between attack and defence for Pep, he's the one who stood out more than most while Pep was at Bayern. Whether we truly want him for sure I don't know but he's certainly good enough for us, also despite what some would say he will probably greatly enhance Rico Lewis's development just by being around in training.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Can we not see if they still want Captain dirty dick?

 

[bell_mcfc]

29 in February. Great player yes, but he'll be coming up to his twilight years very shortly. I'm not sure.

Thats prime, not twilight. There is nothing wrong with having experienced players, KDB is is 32 for gods sake...

 

[bell_mcfc]

Regarding Lewis playing with someone like Kimmich who is a versatile player like him would do him absolute wonders. Also you'd think Kimmich could cover Rodri so could see them play alongside each other so not taking minutes away from him altogether.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Germans at the end of their career don't do too well outside the Bundesliga. Schweinstiger, Podolski to name a few

 

[Scottyboi]

Germans at the end of their career don't do too well outside the Bundesliga. Schweinstiger, Podolski to name a few

He is 28, even in a years time he would still be fine.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

He is 28, even in a years time he would still be fine.

29 next month. Best to file this one under the "Ones we stayed away from that got away" column

 

[Haaland94]

Germans at the end of their career don't do too well outside the Bundesliga. Schweinstiger, Podolski to name a few

Anecdotal evidence. They are not some collective just because of their nationality. They are individual humans, and their nationality plays little to no part in the way they could perform for us. Kimmich is a better player than the both of them ever were and also has a wonderful relationship with Pep. Pep created this guy and clearly loves him. There is a reason for that. We have German-speaking Akanji, Ortega, and Kovacic for faster integration as well.

The same people who like Lewis, who is nowhere near Kimmich and will be lucky to ever get to that level, oppose this transfer. Why? Just to protect an academy player from having competition/mentor? The team always comes first. We rarely get a chance to sign an established world-class player at his peak. A lot of people complained about the quality of our signings. Here is our chance to sign a genuine world-class player who knows our system, and some still oppose it. I don't understand. Looking at Kyle Walker this season, we could definitely use someone capable of playing RB if needed as well.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Germans at the end of their career don't do too well outside the Bundesliga. Schweinstiger, Podolski to name a few

Podolski did alright.

Kroos and Rudiger are doing pretty well too.

Then there’s a bloke called Gundogan who won a few pots last season too.

The pig ascender went to the graveyard that is the theatre of memes. He also was nearly knackered because of injury.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Or Lewis could learn from somebody who will massively contribute to his already great understanding of the game for his age.

Game time isn't always equal to development just look at how Pep used to get slaughtered for not playing Foden at 17, despite that he had played around 50 games by the time Paul Scholes at the equivalent age had even made his debut for the rags.

Patience is a virtue at times there's no need to rush the development of a top young prospect when he can learn off others around him, stylistically Kimmich is probably the perfect mentor for Rico to learn from and if Kimmich does sign he'll learn a lot more just from being around him.

Of course he would learn from him, but if we sign Kimmich it will mean Lewis will play less imo. ‘Game time isn’t equal to development’ - every player needs game time to develop and we’ve seen that with foden in the middle. Lewis isn’t 17 either. Palmer, Mcatee, Trafford and pretty much every young player we have had needed game time, otherwise they don’t develop or end up leaving. I’m not saying they should play every week either.

I think we need to stop comparing foden with other youngsters, he’s a once a in generation talent. Ricos development path is nothing like fodens.

When David silva left we didn’t sign a direct replacement, which meant foden got more game time. He probably would have gone on loan to develop in my opinion if we did.

Lewis is starting to influence and start games now. Why not just develop him, keep giving him games, instead of buying ready made players. He could end up being better than Kimmich and cost nothing.

 

[Paul1970]

I'm also uncertain if he's spot on for us but many people, not just City fans said the same about Gaz Baz, a player you had to watch in person to appreciate.

Sometimes players like that just come and do a shift week in week out and hardly have a bad game . I used to love watching David batty play and he used to do the simple things so good allowing for the skilled players to express themselves . We don’t always need a team full of great passers .

 

[Paul1970]

Podolski did alright.

Kroos and Rudiger are doing pretty well too.

Then there’s a bloke called Gundogan who won a few pots last season too.

The pig ascender went to the graveyard that is the theatre of memes. He also was nearly knackered because of injury.

What about Micheal ballack? Di you think he did great at Chelsea ?.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What about Micheal ballack? Di you think he did great at Chelsea ?.

Not great, but not badly either. Think Lampard and he were too similar.

Eike Immel, on the other hand…

 

[Kinkladze's crazy skills]

Of course he would learn from him, but if we sign Kimmich it will mean Lewis will play less imo. ‘Game time isn’t equal to development’ - every player needs game time to develop and we’ve seen that with foden in the middle. Lewis isn’t 17 either. Palmer, Mcatee, Trafford and pretty much every young player we have had needed game time, otherwise they don’t develop or end up leaving. I’m not saying they should play every week either.

I think we need to stop comparing foden with other youngsters, he’s a once a in generation talent. Ricos development path is nothing like fodens.

When David silva left we didn’t sign a direct replacement, which meant foden got more game time. He probably would have gone on loan to develop in my opinion if we did.

Lewis is starting to influence and start games now. Why not just develop him, keep giving him games, instead of buying ready made players. He could end up being better than Kimmich and cost nothing.

I don't think that's actually a definite he's still going to get plenty of game time for his development needs even if we signed Kimmich, learning from him would be great for his development and should we sign him playing a little less for Rico wouldn't hurt him.
I actually don't necessarily think Kimmich would prevent lots less games it might even do the opposite, you could find Kimmich would start 2/3 of games with Rico playing the others while also replacing him most games.

I'm not comparing any of our other kids with Foden more bemoaning the absurdity driven by the media, that players should be playing lots of games at such a young age like is spouted a lot. I used Scholes as an example (there's plenty of others) because he was nearly 20 when he made his debut, many players of earlier generations didn't start a lot too young because they didn't need to and that still true this day and age. Rico doesn't need to play too many games to become a top class player his development is being nurtured correctly, the utility player Rico Lewis is means he'll get plenty of game time and more than most kids... Pep is managing him correctly just like he did with Phil.

I don't particularly think Phil was ever going to go out on loan no matter what there was no better place than here to develop, reckon he would've gradually got more game time especially with David Silva getting older too it's have been a natural progression. Unfortunately the social media generation has created unrealistic expectations, ones where kids have to be played very often immediately after they breakthrough.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

Thats prime, not twilight. There is nothing wrong with having experienced players, KDB is is 32 for gods sake...

I said coming up to, not there yet. I just like players who we're gonna get some proper mileage out of. That said, if what I'm hearing about the fee being around 20 mill, then its a no brainer, I thought he'd be very,very expensive.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Podolski did alright.

Kroos and Rudiger are doing pretty well too.

Then there’s a bloke called Gundogan who won a few pots last season too.

The pig ascender went to the graveyard that is the theatre of memes. He also was nearly knackered because of injury.

Kross and Rudiger have been playing outside Germany since they early 20's

We Signed Guno when he was about 26

Podolski was trash

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Kross and Rudiger have been playing outside Germany since they early 20's

We Signed Guno when he was about 26

Podolski was trash

So Germans can play abroad at any stage of their career.

Podolski scored 1 in 3 for Arsenal, similar to Gabriel Jesus for them and us too.

Not sure that’s trash.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Thread showing up the usual dickheads.

World class, highly versatile, highly experienced, “winning” players do not come along often.

They hardly ever come along for 20m.

If this kid is available for that price you crawl over broken glass to get him.