Josko Gvardiol

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richards30 said:
no way Ruben should go imo. Laporte i could see going back to Spain and Ake may be offered a chance to be a number 1 somewhere?
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Ake has been our best cb this season imo and I hope he stays, but can see him leaving if doesn't get enough game time.
 
richards30 said:
Thats what i was thinking mate as we just when people are fit have too many CB`S?
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I thought Chelsea had already boxed this lad off, as he held talks with them in the summer?

It's brilliant forward-planning if we already know who is wanting out at the end of the season.

It would have a whiff of the Bellingham moves behind the scenes, should the report be true.

A serious upgrade for two positions and looks good in a mask!
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Could be the only reason if the report is true.

Ake was ready to leave in the summer, Laporte has been linked to Real and Barca for ages.

We should be able to get £120m for those two.

Isn't Laporte a new dad/will be? Same for Gundo, Bernie wanting to settle down abroad...

Perhaps some of our older lads are ready to move on for family reasons, rather than footballing?
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Could see Laporte to Barca. They've apparently given up on Eric Garcia and want to sell him in the summer meaning they would need a CB.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I thought Chelsea had already boxed this lad off, as he held talks with them in the summer?

It's brilliant forward-planning if we already know who is wanting out at the end of the season.

It would have a whiff of the Bellingham moves behind the scenes, should the report be true.

A serious upgrade for two positions and looks good in a mask!
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lol! Maybe Chelsea get Ake and we get Gvardiol?
 
Ake has really grown on me (fantastic this season and many people’s stand out for Netherlands at the WC) and Laporte’s ability on the ball is vital to how we play, it’s a step above the others (apart from Jonny Stones) but if both want to move, Gvardiol would be a brilliant replacement.

Leaves us with 4 CBs still and somebody capable of covering left back as well - essentially an Ake replacement/upgrade in that sense.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I thought Chelsea had already boxed this lad off, as he held talks with them in the summer?

It's brilliant forward-planning if we already know who is wanting out at the end of the season.

It would have a whiff of the Bellingham moves behind the scenes, should the report be true.

A serious upgrade for two positions and looks good in a mask!yu
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Well, well...surprise surprise...

Seems logical that we are very much "in" for him.

Makes perfect sense as some here already were aware. This was my attempt to outline why here in early August:

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Josko Gvardiol

Messi made him look about 40 tonight. Hopefully knock 40 million off the price tag
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PrezIke said:
My humble attempt to provide a summary of Gvardiol intended to demonstrate some key reasons he could readily fit into a sort of cyborg combination of Walker + Cancelo on the left as a hybrid LB/CB Pep desires from defenders and why we could very well be targeting him (and a key bonus reason mentioned at the end)...
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- A Constant Threat in Attack
- A Forward-Thinking Presence in Defense
- Final Third Penetration: Exploiting the Opponent’s Defensive Line
- Defensive Style: Beautifully Old-School

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Lastly, there may be another potentially hidden factor of signing Gvardiol for Pep.

Pep could very well see Gvardiol as an additional rotation calibre no. 6-8 along with LB/CB.

That would mean the bonus of adding a left footed, hard working, dynamic CB/LB/CDM/CM we may need very soon.

Why?

We are set to likely lose Gundo and Bernardo next summer and that would mean we could have to spend massively on 2 midfielders, whilst also considering KDB's age.

By adding Gvardiol to the squad one can see such a conversion bing plausible as Pep did with Lahm, Delph, Zinchenko improving depth to mitigate the potential loss of Bernardo, in particular as he both are left footed.
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Based on this season it's Dias out first for me. Ruthless but all the other have outperformed him.

What I think will happen though is Laporte will go.
 
A back 3 of Gvardiol-Dias-Walker would be extremely tough to get behind.

If we have sales... then perhaps it makes sense.

I also think it is an option to get Cancelo on the right if Gvardiol plays LB because currently we are forced to have Cancelo left and Walker right and ALWAYS tilt left to make the back 3.

Could have Gvardiol left and Cancelo right and tilt right now, perhaps also giving our young RB Rico Lewis a chance to go up and down that flank.

Kind of makes sense, to just say Ake and Gvardiol, your the leftbacks now, we always tilt right. For example:


Ake/Gvardiol
Dias/Stones/Akanji/Walker (2 of these)
Cancelo/Lewis ---> tilt right for back 3 of:

Ake/Gvardiol/Dias/Stones/Akanji/Walker


Even with Laporte gone, I think you probably need 1 more CB to leave, that's still 6 in 3 spots. I'd prefer not to lose 2 left-footed CBs (Laporte and Ake), I also rate Ake quite highly.
 
We are fine with the defenders we have. We need a fullback and a CM to replace Gundogan. A cheap option would be Amrabat (can also cover in DM for Rodri or Philips) but ideally I would prefer Bellingham.

Personally, I think we have too many defenders, normally I would prefer if we get rid of 2 defenders but that might be too drastic nevertheless we need to get one out the door. Rodri was a great CB in the world cup, so that gives us another option at the back.

We are completely stacked in that department. We don't need more defenders.
 
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