Josko Gvardiol

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BrazilianGus said:
Signing him and not using him primarily as a CB would be stupid
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We play 4 CB's now with Stones pushing up into midfield so it's a back 3 at times. Gvardiol is also quick and has great passing ability, he's a step up from playing Ake, Akanji on the left of the back 4/3
 
PrezIke said:
Well, well...surprise surprise...

Seems logical that we are very much "in" for him.

Makes perfect sense as some here already were aware. This was my attempt to outline why here in early August:

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Josko Gvardiol

Messi made him look about 40 tonight. Hopefully knock 40 million off the price tag
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1 year ago (2 Aug, 2022) some may recall other than that recent re-post this long post I wrote, citing data and quoting various articles to offer:

My humble attempt to provide a summary of Gvardiol intended to demonstrate some key reasons he could readily fit into a sort of cyborg combination of Walker + Cancelo on the left as a hybrid LB/CB Pep desires from defenders and why we could very well be targeting him (and a key bonus reason mentioned at the end)
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Take a look at the post if you wish, but whilst you may not too bothered...

perhaps stick around for the lat bits I'll post below on:
  1. How Gvardiol differs from our other defenders

  2. COULD offer something even more in some version to what we've seen from Stones, Lewis, Akanji, Cancelo, Delph and other defenders before under Pep
I cited this 4 part summary from one of the articles

Hone in on the 1st 3 points on Josko below

Even if we know the value with the 4th on Gvardiol on being one who loves defending has risen within the back line as per Pep and Ake's comments the other day.

- A Constant Threat in Attack
- A Forward-Thinking Presence in Defense
- Final Third Penetration: Exploiting the Opponent’s Defensive Line
- Defensive Style: Beautifully Old-School
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THe attacking bits and everything about him make me almost want to attempt use of the term:

BOX TO BOX BALL PLAYING ATTACKING WIDE DEFENDER

In Football Manager this could be some combo of:

- Wide Central Defender on Support or Attack meets Inverted Wing Back / on Support or Attack
- who also has strong defending attributes of bravery and aggression.

THis leads to my final words in that post that I still WONDER about Gvardiol here with how...

Pep used Stones & Akanji at times and Lewis both this past season and pre-season with runs with the ball FAR into the opposition half making runs into the box...

the idea I propose doesn't sound mental to me at all given the realities with losses in midfield and Pep being...Pep:

Here's what I wrote:

Lastly, there may be another potentially hidden factor of signing Gvardiol for Pep.

Pep could very well see Gvardiol as an additional rotation calibre no. 6-8 along with LB/CB.

That would mean the bonus of adding a left footed, hard working, dynamic CB/LB/CDM/CM we may need very soon.

Why?

We are set to likely lose Gundo and Bernardo next summer and that would mean we could have to spend massively on 2 midfielders, whilst also considering KDB's age.

By adding Gvardiol to the squad one can see such a conversion bing plausible as Pep did with Lahm, Delph, Zinchenko improving depth to mitigate the potential loss of Bernardo, in particular as he both are left footed.
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Absolutely any player in world football could have a 'lowlights' reel made about their performances, with film of every mistake they have made. I always prefer the Gerard Houllier approach on this one, remembering him talk about looking only at a player's strengths when assessing what they could bring to the team. This guy is universally regarded as one of the best young players in the game, and potentially the world's best defender. How can you not be pleased with a purchase like this one if you are a Manchester City supporter?
 
I guess the scum will have to find a defender with a beard now, and a name that sounds close to Gvardiol and pay a record fee ?
 
oldius said:
Absolutely any player in world football could have a 'lowlights' reel made about their performances, with film of every mistake they have made. I always prefer the Gerard Houllier approach on this one, remembering him talk about looking only at a player's strengths when assessing what they could bring to the team. This guy is universally regarded as one of the best young players in the game, and potentially the world's best defender. How can you not be pleased with a purchase like this one if you are a Manchester City supporter?
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Are you sad we’re didn’t give Callum Doyle a chance instead?
 
SouthernPlastic said:
What a change at left back. Gvardiol annnd Ake. Never been happier with that position than now, mind you, same goes for the rest of the defence.

I’m sure everyone has seen his videos but this one really highlights both his defensive and attacking capabilities. He’s a beast going forward, powerful runs like Kev with a good pass on him too.

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Looks a player, i take it we think he is intelligent enough to not need the obligatory first year off just to understand Peps tactics
 
LongsightM13 said:
Harry Kane will retire without a single trophy
Football is as much about defending as attacking
There’s a goal at each end
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I doubt Kane will stay at Spuds after his current contract. He will probably be at a club that wins trophies for the last few years of his career.
 
BrazilianGus said:
Are you sad we’re didn’t give Callum Doyle a chance instead?
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No. Having watched him play I don't believe he is ready for PL football. I think the loan that he has been given to Leicester is perfect in the next development stage and next season may be different. I do believe that Gomez, Bobb, McAtee, and Palmer are ready. There is also a difference in position - defensive mistakes are, generally, more crucial than attacking ones, especially given that we tend to face counter-attacking one-on-ones as the only weapon opposing teams have. Finally, we are talking about the finest defensive prospect in world football - the gap to Callum, at this time, is large. Callum never proved himself as the best of our EDS, though he looked a very fine prospect. McAtee, Palmer and Bobb were absolutely the best that our academy had to offer. If we were in for Vinicius Jr, then I would say go for it because he, like Gvardiol, is in the top tier. I don't feel that Olise, for example, is guaranteed to offer more than the aforementioned academy talent.

In time, I hope that Callum transitions to the very highest levels as he is clearly a very good prospect. His mobility would be the only question mark against him but it hasn't stopped several other top defenders from becoming so.
 
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RayCTID said:
Gvardiol will solve the left back and left hand side of the defence issue as in the main he seems more reliable than Cancelo but that is not we really need. Creativity has never been the issue with the team even at the back. The only issue even with Haaland is we are still wasteful. The last friendly highlighted that.
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Ffs now you’re arguing against your own point. You said he was expensive for a defender as it’s goal creators that cost the most. I point out that he will add goals to us (whilst being an excellent young defender) and you say we don’t need goals.

Glad Pep’s in charge and not you.
 
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