Jude Bellingham

[trueblue1972]

don't give a fuck what you say. fact remains he is just raw potential who is not good enough currently for our team. he is a 60mil player at best. if we go by what pep can do. then he can take a player form our academy and if he works long enough with them he can convert them into a 100mil player. so what is the point of spending 150mil to get just potential who will need teaching for a couple of years? we might as well use our academy if that was the point. for 150mil I expect madrid CL zidane to be transferred to our midfield not some no mark like bellingham who needs a couple of mids to hand hold him and teach him the art.

I'm very interested in knowing why you feel your better placed to know what pep can do than pep himself?

 

[eastlandsblue]

don't give a fuck what you say. fact remains he is just raw potential who is not good enough currently for our team. he is a 60mil player at best. if we go by what pep can do. then he can take a player form our academy and if he works long enough with them he can convert them into a 100mil player. so what is the point of spending 150mil to get just potential who will need teaching for a couple of years? we might as well use our academy if that was the point. for 150mil I expect madrid CL zidane to be transferred to our midfield not some no mark like bellingham who needs a couple of mids to hand hold him and teach him the art.

Why don't you let the expert handle Judes development. And in this case, can you name anyone better than Pep.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

don't give a fuck what you say. fact remains he is just raw potential who is not good enough currently for our team. he is a 60mil player at best. if we go by what pep can do. then he can take a player form our academy and if he works long enough with them he can convert them into a 100mil player. so what is the point of spending 150mil to get just potential who will need teaching for a couple of years? we might as well use our academy if that was the point. for 150mil I expect madrid CL zidane to be transferred to our midfield not some no mark like bellingham who needs a couple of mids to hand hold him and teach him the art.

You're the same guy who advocated for the headless chicken that Chelsea ended up paying 110m for.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

I think it's you being a tad over-emotional fella. It's not that deep. Bellingham's a young player with huge potential who you don't rate. So what? \0/

Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone's got one, including opinions like yours which most observers & professionals disagree with.

If Pep wants Bellingham, that's good enough for me. The opinion of some random dude on the internet is meh to me... \0/

I don't have to have to justify my opinions. Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone's got one, including opinions like yours I don't give a fuck what some random dude like yours have to say anyway. but I am free to put my opinion on the forum just like yours. So what? \0/

 

[Agueroooo9320]

I'm very interested in knowing why you feel your better placed to know what pep can do than pep himself?

because maybe I am better analyst than him? pep is not some all knowing God. besides pep is not the one responsible for identifying targets and paying for him. if you give any no mark turd pep can polish given time them and make them a very expensive player in the market including bellingham. does not mean that is good for the team to wait that long to polish turd while we miss out on trophies. for 150mil I expect bellingham to perform like zindane at the peak form the first game.

 

[Vester]

While I can fully understand, and perhaps agree, with the argument that Bellingham is nowhere near being worth 150m (or even 125m) based on how good he is today and I dont think that you in general shouldn't pay record breaking fees for potential. Record breaking fees should be for players that are among the best (or the best) in the world in their position. But on the other side of the coin, if City have to replace Gundogan this summer and have identified Bellingham as the best long term replacement out there, who cares if he costs 60m or 150m, the club can afford it. People seem more obsessed with winning "the net spend trophy" and getting "great value for money" rather than winning actual trophies. We are not Brighton when you have to get the absolut most out of every penny to be able to compete. We already have a squad full of world class players which gives us the luxury of being able to pay over the top to get the player we really want, without having to settle with a second or third option who might be "better value" penny for penny. The club should worry about that when signing squad players like Akanji or Alvarez, not when signing a player they hope will be the heart of the midfield over the next decade. If Bellingham signs and stays here 10+ years, nobody will sit here in a decade thinking "we really should have paid 80m tops for Bellingham back in 2023".

If we get Bellingham, great, if we don't, we will find someone else. But its not like I would open a bottle of champagne if we would sign someone like Mac Allister thinking "wooohoo the club saved 50-70m on getting him instead of Bellingham what a deal" (even if I think Mac Allister would be a great signing too). What I care about during the transfer windows is the club getting the players they and Pep want. Not about winning arguments with rival fans about which signing is the "better value for money". As an example, I would rather have a 100m striker scoring 20 goals than a 50m striker scoring 18 goals since 20 goals is better than 18 goals.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

Why don't you let the expert handle Judes development. And in this case, can you name anyone better than Pep.

we are not debating the development rather the cost effectiveness of the buy. first of all pep does not identify or pay the money for the talents. pep has no fault if the club pays 150mil for a 60 mil player. he will be juts as happy with bellingham if he was a 20 mil player. it is on the executives this. know your club better. like I said pep can polish any turd of a player. but why buy one in the first place.

 

[Bluemoon has risen]

because maybe I am better analyst than him?

Hahahahahahaha

 

[Agueroooo9320]

While I can fully understand, and perhaps agree, with the argument that Bellingham is nowhere near being worth 150m (or even 125m) based on how good he is today and I dont think that you in general shouldn't pay record breaking fees for potential. Record breaking fees should be for players that are among the best (or the best) in the world in their position. But on the other side of the coin, if City have to replace Gundogan this summer and have identified Bellingham as the best long term replacement out there, who cares if he costs 60m or 150m, the club can afford it. People seem more obsessed with winning "the net spend trophy" and getting "great value for money" rather than winning actual trophies. We are not Brighton when you have to get the absolut most out of every penny to be able to compete. We already have a squad full of world class players which gives us the luxury of being able to pay over the top to get the player we really want, without having to settle with a second or third option who might be "better value" penny for penny. The club should worry about that when signing squad players like Akanji or Alvarez, not when signing a player they hope will be the heart of the midfield over the next decade. If Bellingham signs and stays here 10+ years, nobody will sit here in a decade thinking "we really should have paid 80m tops for Bellingham back in 2023".

If we get Bellingham, great, if we don't, we will find someone else. But its not like I would open a bottle of champagne if we would sign someone like Mac Allister instead thinking "wooohoo the club saved 50-70m on getting him instead of Bellingham what a deal" (even if I think Mac Allister would be a great signing too). What I care about during the transfer windows is the club getting the players they and Pep want. Not about winning arguments with rival fans about which signing is the "better value for money". As an example, I would rather have a 100m striker scoring 20 goals than a 50m striker scoring 18 goals since 20 goals is better than 18 goals.

this is kind of a valid argument but a flawed one. first of all I disagree that MacAllister will be a worse option than bellingham when it is the complete opposite. at this current moment MacAllister is more developed and experienced than bellingham to step into our midfield and fill the shoes of our midfield while bellingham is like a headless chicken that needs to be taught the craft of the game. second the club hardly plans more than 5 years ahead because a lot can change in football in 5 years and it is impossible to plan those. so no one in city is planning for bellingham in 10 years time. so that 150 mil is not just about the absolute cost of the buy but also of the effectiveness. I say MacAllister for 5 years is more effective buy than 5 years of bellingham irrespective of the cost. even if they cost the same MacAllister would be the better buy for a 5 year time period. maybe in 10 years time belligham will have a higher peak than MacAllister but city as a club cannot say for certain that it will be at our club rather than say at real madrid.

 

[Bernard20]

because maybe I am better analyst than him? pep is not some all knowing God. besides pep is not the one responsible for identifying targets and paying for him. if you give any no mark turd pep can polish given time them and make them a very expensive player in the market including bellingham. does not mean that is good for the team to wait that long to polish turd while we miss out on trophies. for 150mil I expect bellingham to perform like zindane at the peak form the first game.

Bwahahaha!