Jude Bellingham

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dcye said:
Who cares what random 15yo slappers on BM and Twitter say about player perfomances. Log off once in a while mate.
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If people didn't care about what people thought of the club, the media thread wouldn't have 2500 pages every season.

I'm less bothered about external voices and more what spending 150m on a player does internally, how we maintain the balance of a squad when 1 player has to start every game, how are players going to react. Mahrez arriving as a record signing is what pushed Sané out and Grealish arriving pushed Jesus and Sterling out. How is the wage bill going to cope, are we moving towards a Zidanes and Pavones situation where we'll have to start relying on unproven kids to balance out galactico signings and have a weaker 25 man squad.


There's a lot of baggage that comes with signing someone for £150m - look at the list of 100m+ transfers:

Neymar - Decent return for PSG but not what they'd have hoped and non-stop off pitch issues.
Mbappé - Constant drama about leaving, holding them over a barrell, seems to have turned into a bellend.
Coutinho - Complete disaster.
Hazard - Complete disaster.
Joao Felix - Atletico can't shift him, don't want to play him. Pretty close to a disaster.
Enzo Fernandez - TBC.
Griezmann - Disaster signing, back at Atletico 2 years later for 1/3 the price.
Grealish - Playing about as well as our existing options in his position after 18 months not performing.
Lukaku - Complete disaster.
Dembele - Complete disaster.

I look at that list of players and it doesn't make me excitied about putting another entry in there, even if the player is amazing. That would hold true for Bellingham or Kvaratskhelia or Gvardiol or anyone else we might get linked to.

Normally I'm one of those people who doesn't care about how much someone costs, it's not my money etc, but for some reason these top 10 in history, 100m+ fees almost always end in disaster and disappointment, no matter how good the player is or how good the team they're joining is. Obviously something about costing that much money effects things.
 
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I don’t care about the fee. Let’s say Jude only cost £50m and he flopped anyway. City have bought plenty of players with an ‘acceptable’ fee that did not work out. Jack is coming good but still not worth the fee. No player is really worth that money apart from goal scorers and we have one of the best.

The only downside is the media hate towards us but it won’t change anyway Jude or not. Buy the best city.
 
domalino said:
If people didn't care about what people thought of the club, the media thread would have 2500 pages every season.

I'm less bothered about external voices and more what spending 150m on a player does internally, how we maintain the balance of a squad when 1 player has to start every game, how are players going to react. Mahrez arriving as a record signing is what pushed Sané out and Grealish arriving pushed Jesus and Sterling out. How is the wage bill going to cope, are we moving towards a Zidanes and Pavones situation where we'll have to start relying on unproven kids to balance out galactico signings and have a weaker 25 man squad.


There's a lot of baggage that comes with signing someone for £150m.
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Didn't we have the same arguments before we spent £100m on Grealish? The fee is largely irrelevant once they're in the door. Grealish doesn't HAVE to start every game because he's our record signing, he's starting every game recently because of his form, same would happen with Bellingham, a fee is never more important to Pep than attitude and application
 
Centurions said:
Alessandro appears to be an Arsenal fan, so considering their manager is trying to play the same way as City do, then it really is weird.
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I've never heard such bollocks from this guy Alessandro since the Rags fans were imploring MANUre to sign David Silver six weeks after he'd played his first game for us. I wonder what he thinks he's seeing. It's certainly not what I'm seeing.
 
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domalino said:
If people didn't care about what people thought of the club, the media thread wouldn't have 2500 pages every season.

I'm less bothered about external voices and more what spending 150m on a player does internally, how we maintain the balance of a squad when 1 player has to start every game, how are players going to react. Mahrez arriving as a record signing is what pushed Sané out and Grealish arriving pushed Jesus and Sterling out. How is the wage bill going to cope, are we moving towards a Zidanes and Pavones situation where we'll have to start relying on unproven kids to balance out galactico signings and have a weaker 25 man squad.


There's a lot of baggage that comes with signing someone for £150m - look at the list of 100m+ transfers:

Neymar - Decent return for PSG but not what they'd have hoped.
Mbappé - Constant drama about leaving, seems to have turned into a bellend.
Coutinho - Complete disaster
Hazard - Complete disaster.
Joao Felix - Atletico can't shift him, don't want to play him.
Enzo Fernandez - TBC.
Griezmann - Disaster signing, back at Atletico 2 years later for 1/3 the price.
Grealish - Playing about as well as our existing options in his position after 18 months not performing.
Lukaku - Complete disaster.
Dembele - Complete disaster.

I look at that list of players and it doesn't make me excitied about putting another entry in there, even if the player is amazing. That would hold true for Bellingham or Kvaratskhelia or Gvardiol or anyone else we might get linked to.
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Something to consider Dom is that Jude is a generational talent

If Haaland didnt have a release clause and we paid £150m for him in the summer he would have been on that list and what does it matter?

Also prices have gone up the 40-60m player is now 60-80m. Nature of the beast as revenues go up so do prices
 
BlueBrain said:
Something to consider Dom is that Jude is a generational talent

If Haaland didnt have a release clause and we paid £150m for him in the summer he would have been on that list and what does it matter?

Also prices have gone up the 40-60m player is now 60-80m. Nature of the beast as revenues go up so do price
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But he didn't cost £150m. And we don't know how much that would have effected him.

Is Bellingham a better player than everyone else on that list when they moved?

I'm not saying he's going to be a disaster transfer, I'm just explaining why fees this big sap away a lot of the exitement around signing a player for me, because expectation levels just get so high, and there's so much baggage to it, and the consequences of it not working are so much higher and at least until I actually see the generational talent putting in generational performances in a City shirt, it gives me reservations.

My biggest hope is simply that the fee isn't as big as it's being reported, which also wouldn't surprise me given the bluster in the German press we always see.
 
Can't wait his first season (if we do sign him over 100m) he will become a new punching bag if he didn't perform good immediately and didn't give the same chance like others adapting atleast a season.
 
HelloCity said:
Kyle Walker was the most expensive full back in history and the reaction from many was that we overpaid to get him.

The outcome?

We strengthened the side and he had a great career at City. No one cares about the price anymore.
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Yeah, not sure which signing (globally, not just City) it was when I stopped caring. I used to be a bit apprehensive about huge money signings and thinking it'd add pressure on the club and the player but now couldn't give two flying fucks.

As long as we get a brilliant player and the club believes it's worth it, who cares?! It's either we pay it or somebody else does.

When you see Chelsea spunking the money they have been in the last couple of windows, anything is fair game really.
 
HelloCity said:
Kyle Walker was the most expensive full back in history and the reaction from many was that we overpaid to get him.

The outcome?

We strengthened the side and he had a great career at City. No one cares about the price anymore.
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Agreed! Fuck the amount of the media reactions! If the club pay i`m more than happy with it if it improves the team and imo Jude would.
 
domalino said:
But he didn't cost £150m. And we don't know how much that would have effected him.

Is Bellingham a better player than everyone else on that list when they moved?

I'm not saying he's going to be a disaster transfer, I'm just explaining why fees this big sap away a lot of the exitement around signing a player for me, because expectation levels just get so high, and there's so much baggage to it, and the consequences of it not working are so much higher and at least until I actually see the generational talent putting in generational performances in a City shirt, it gives me reservations.

My biggest hope is simply that the fee isn't as big as it's being reported, which also wouldn't surprise me given the bluster in the German press we always see.
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I'm absolutely certain we won't pay £150m for him.

I'd be surprised if it's as high as €150m (£131m).

Enzo Fernandez went for £107m, so I reckon they'll want a little more than that.

That's if he doesn't have a secret release clause. Always smoke and mirrors with Dortmund.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
I'm absolutely certain we won't pay £150m for him.

I'd be surprised if it's as high as €150m (£131m).

Enzo Fernandez went for £107m, so I reckon they'll want a little more than that.

That's if he doesn't have a secret release clause. Always smoke and mirrors with Dortmund.
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If he had secret clause, there will be more club lining for him than what reported by now. The only issues will be his wages demand, at minimum 350k from what i've seen on rumor.
 
Anyone find it a bit coincidental that this piece has come out with the next game being us against the dippers.
 
Kamaro011 said:
If he had secret clause, there will be more club lining for him than what reported by now. The only issues will be his wages demand, at minimum 350k from what i've seen on rumor.
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Haaland's release clause was public knowledge (in fact, it was actually cheaper than reported) and yet it was really only ever a two-horse race between us and Madrid and we had him locked down by March.
 
We, as a fanbase, have the ability to have realistic expectations. Almost no matter what we pay, the redtops have a vested interest in demeaning the achievements of our players, to make out that we are disappointed with what they have achieved, and to create a narrative that x player is failing to live up to their price tag, because they want to appeal to different fanbases, generating clicks for profit. It comes back to all of us supporting our club and our players and believing in our scouting network, sending a message that we absolutely believe in the new player. If it's Bellingham, and 150m, it will take even more of that.
 
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