Jude Bellingham

[Akira]

Great thread

Decent read, some parts do come off abit more hateful than objective. Just want to point out the "no #8's praised for goalscoring" is wrong, because there's City legend Frank Lampard.

I think the English media, and probably some England fans, are just really desperate for their own 'Ronaldo/Messi' that isn't actually playing for City.

 

[BlueHammer85]

 

[doobyedoobye]

They are a buch of utter cnuts in my experence.

In saying that the vast majority of the players at our club in the last decade apart from a couple of exceptions have need very good characters.

It was very unusual Birmingham City retired his shirt number...

 

[mexico1970]

It was very unusual Birmingham City retired his shirt number...

Weird after just 41 games and 4 goals, they didn't even do that for Trevor Francis.

 

[Akira]

Weird after just 41 games and 4 goals, they didn't even do that for Trevor Francis.

I thought it was the money he brought in rescued them or something.

 

[mexico1970]

I thought it was the money he brought in rescued them or something.

You'd think that we'd immortalise the SWP shirt, many other clubs have sold their players to balance the books. It's weird that they retired his shirt.

 

[Keeper!]

It was very unusual Birmingham City retired his shirt number...

Fantastic PR exercise and it worked, why else would we be mentioning Birmingham City. (sorry Garrrrry ;))

 

[adrianr]

Great thread

It's telling me something I already believe so in the interest of not hiding my confirmation bias I'm going to say that's a great read and spot on ;)

In all seriousness, whilst I wish that was in a normal article form and not 50 separate tweets, and whilst I wish more of their arguments regarding holes in his game were backed up by some actual stats (You can have your own opinion on them, personally, I love stats), it does more or less nail what I already think to be true. He's an above average hugely, hugely marketable player, and a lot of forces with fuck all to do with football have vested interests in pushing him as this generations golden boy. I watch him play and I don't get the hype. Sometimes hype is literally just that. If you're told by all and sundry that he's amazing, it's natural to ignore his shortcomings and overegg his strengths, because so many people are saying it, so it must be true, right?

Nah - above average player, not half as good as he thinks he is, and is currently a net negative to this England side. I'm sticking with that until I see something to the contrary.

 

[hilts]

Weird after just 41 games and 4 goals, they didn't even do that for Trevor Francis.

Now he was a proper player.

 

[Crooked_rain]

It's telling me something I already believe so in the interest of not hiding my confirmation bias I'm going to say that's a great read and spot on ;)

In all seriousness, whilst I wish that was in a normal article form and not 50 separate tweets, and whilst I wish more of their arguments regarding holes in his game were backed up by some actual stats (You can have your own opinion on them, personally, I love stats), it does more or less nail what I already think to be true. He's an above average hugely, hugely marketable player, and a lot of forces with fuck all to do with football have vested interests in pushing him as this generations golden boy. I watch him play and I don't get the hype. Sometimes hype is literally just that. If you're told by all and sundry that he's amazing, it's natural to ignore his shortcomings and overegg his strengths, because so many people are saying it, so it must be true, right?

Nah - above average player, not half as good as he thinks he is, and is currently a net negative to this England side. I'm sticking with that until I see something to the contrary.

I still stand by my assessment that he's basically a slighter better version of Scott McTominay, with a lot more marketability.

Both decent athletes that can get around the pitch well and have a decent eye for goal with runs into the box. That's basically the extent of what they do well.

Other aspects of their game are bang average. Not particularly skillful or creative. Not particularly great passers, nor possessing great vision etc etc.

People will see his true level in the next few years and it's not among the elite players.