Jude Bellingham

bobbyowenquiff said:
This is spot-on. Watching the game last night it seemed obvious that the biggest issue was no one was linking the defence to the midfield/attack. The defenders had lots of possession but no one in midfield was making themselves available. Rice was the problem because he can't take the ball under pressure and make quick decisions to release it. City had similar problems when Rodri was injured and that's why Phillips flopped as his potential back-up.
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Keep seeing Rice in comparison to Rodri. The Spaniard being the best player in that position in World football doesn’t automatically make Rice a poor player. Rice is by a considerable distance the best English player for that role and why Pep was wanting him for best part of £100 million
 
jrb said:
You and your team mates were a few seconds from being knocked out of the competition, you plum. Bar the goals, you haven’t done much during the 4 games. Yet you criticise the fans who have spent a fortune travelling to Germany to support you and the team and at home.

"You hear people talk a lot of rubbish. It's nice when you can deliver and give them a little bit back."

www.bbc.co.uk

Jude Bellingham says it is 'nice to give a bit back' after England criticism

Jude Bellingham responds to England's critics following the side's dramatic win against Slovakia in the last 16 of Euro 2024.
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the backlash to him saying this proves his point.
 
Like everyone else in this England team Bellingham has been monumentally disappointing and we might like to speculate where the responsibility for this collective failure lies. I think we have noticed an increased petulance and sense of entitlement evident in his play and yet the media are feeding us stories that he is England's talisman, that yesterday's equaliser was a moment of brilliance and it just had to be "from that man again". Unfortunately, I had sat through every draining moment of the game and Bellingham, to my mind, had been dreadful. No more and no less dreadful than any other England player, but still dreadful. And this against the 45th best team in the world, to add to the miserable performances against the 32nd, 21st and 57th teams in the world. And on Saturday we have to halt the progress of the 19th best team. Bellingham and the team may need some real heroics. But I'm sure they have the right manager and talisman to inspire the "lads"!(?)
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
This is spot-on. Watching the game last night it seemed obvious that the biggest issue was no one was linking the defence to the midfield/attack. The defenders had lots of possession but no one in midfield was making themselves available. Rice was the problem because he can't take the ball under pressure and make quick decisions to release it. City had similar problems when Rodri was injured and that's why Phillips flopped as his potential back-up.
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Exactly as you and Supercity88 say, the midfield is the crux of the problem as far as Southgate's squad utilisation is concerned.

There is a litany of problems that has been facing England ever since this competition began, from Southgate not arriving in Germany with the system and players properly sorted and ready to go; to his choice of players (eg no Grealish as an option, or at least as one of four wide players Southgate could have used to vary things in every game); to 'square pegs in round holes' (see Foden and Bellingham especially); to dealing with players' egoes (see Kane and Bellingham especially); and so on and so on as many others on here have pointed out.

But last night I was ranting and foaming (not a good look, I'll admit!) every time Jordan or Stones or Walker or Guehi or Trippier were on the ball, looking for forward passing options. Time after time there came none.

The whole midfield was stretched at least ten metres further away than it should have been, making links with the back four nigh on impossible and increasing the risk of the back line making errors under pressure from the (highly organised) Slovak team.

The individuals (especially the midfield group) on the pitch have to take some responsibility for what has happened during the four matches we've played so far (and Foden is included in this critique)

But given the numerous errors Southgate has made pre- and during the Euros, it is little wonder that we've been as bobbins as we have, even against, may I say, the 'less elite' nations.

I hope we can turn things around but I think it will require the senior members of the team to lead a squad session involving a long, hard look at what they are all doing and the direction they need to take from here on in, exactly as the 86 World Cup squad had to do with the floundering Bobby Robson.

Fingers crossed, who knows..?!
 
No.8 said:
Keep seeing Rice in comparison to Rodri. The Spaniard being the best player in that position in World football doesn’t automatically make Rice a poor player. Rice is by a considerable distance the best English player for that role and why Pep was wanting him for best part of £100 million
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Rices shot at the post towards the end of the 2nd half is exactly what he should be doing more of but he doesn't do it enough.

England are really missing that classic central box to box midfielder who gets goals. Put an in-form Lampard into this team and I think we'd look far more stable. The casualty for that unfortunately has to be Bellingham or Foden.

Bellingham-Foden is unfortunately becoming the Lampard-Gerrard of our times, they just don't work together.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
Like everyone else in this England team Bellingham has been monumentally disappointing and we might like to speculate where the responsibility for this collective failure lies. I think we have noticed an increased petulance and sense of entitlement evident in his play and yet the media are feeding us stories that he is England's talisman, that yesterday's equaliser was a moment of brilliance and it just had to be "from that man again". Unfortunately, I had sat through every draining moment of the game and Bellingham, to my mind, had been dreadful. No more and no less dreadful than any other England player, but still dreadful. And this against the 45th best team in the world, to add to the miserable performances against the 32nd, 21st and 57th teams in the world. And on Saturday we have to halt the progress of the 19th best team. Bellingham and the team may need some real heroics. But I'm sure they have the right manager and talisman to inspire the "lads"!(?)
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Commentary described him as "England's favourite son" there is that much smoke coming out of his arse it's affected some on here who actually believe it :)
 
No.8 said:
Because he’s living rent free in the minds of so many.

I personally love this thread.
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It's fun playing down how much of a bellend he is with people on here yet also playing down how good he actually is as a footballer on other forums lol.
 
Cantona, Zlatan, Totti, Ronaldo.

There's 4 pretty arrogant footballers for you.

Will Jude make the grade?
 
Kind of hope that happens. See how we lineup without him and whether we get the more cohesive performance that everyone here seems to be convinced we'll get without bellingham supposedly taking over the whole show.
 
I’m not sure why posters are coming across surprised or questioning why many can’t take to him. Unless you’ve had your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears for the last few months I’d say it’s pretty obvious why, and it’s only those fans who don’t care about a players all round game or attitude as long as they grab a goal that think he’s the bees knees.
He’s highly unlikable, his ego and PR makes everything about him which would be great if he had the performances to back it up this tournament.
After 4 games he’s played well, all told for around 45 minutes. That might be enough for the basic fan who looks at a winning goal and last minute equaliser as justification for all the praise but it’s not for many others who see a bigger picture at play.
He may one day become the player he and a few others think he is already because the tools are there and the talent is undeniable but he’s way off that standard as it stands.
The couple of rabid England fans on here who think it’s because Foden is being shunted he’s not getting the accolades they think he deserves are not worthy of response, the brainwashing has already been completed on them.
 
Phil1 said:
I’m not sure why posters are coming across surprised or questioning why many can’t take to him. Unless you’ve had your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears for the last few months I’d say it’s pretty obvious why, and it’s only those fans who don’t care about a players all round game or attitude as long as they grab a goal that think he’s the bees knees.
He’s highly unlikable, his ego and PR makes everything about him which would be great if he had the performances to back it up this tournament.
After 4 games he’s played well, all told for around 45 minutes. That might be enough for the basic fan who looks at a winning goal and last minute equaliser as justification for all the praise but it’s not for many others who see a bigger picture at play.
He may one day become the player he and a few others think he is already because the tools are there and the talent is undeniable but he’s way off that standard as it stands.
The couple of rabid England fans on here who think it’s because Foden is being shunted he’s not getting the accolades they think he deserves are not worthy of response, the brainwashing has already been completed on them.
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Ego the size of the Grand Canyon, completely puffed up with his own self importance, a bit of a narc to put it mildly, a thoroughly disagreeable character and completely deserving of a certain 4 letter swear word beginning with C.
 
inbetween said:
Rices shot at the post towards the end of the 2nd half is exactly what he should be doing more of but he doesn't do it enough.

England are really missing that classic central box to box midfielder who gets goals. Put an in-form Lampard into this team and I think we'd look far more stable. The casualty for that unfortunately has to be Bellingham or Foden.

Bellingham-Foden is unfortunately becoming the Lampard-Gerrard of our times, they just don't work together.
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Bellingham - Foden can work, we just don't know because Phil is stuck out on the left mostly and Bellingham is playing as a 10.

England have a box to box player with an eye for goal...Bellingham. That was basically his role at Dortmund for a lot of the time. It's likely his role in Madrid next season now Ancelotti has to fit all the forward players in with Mbappe there. Mbappe and Vini Jr both play a similar position coming in off the left, so one of them will move more central or they'll alternate, which means occupying Bellingham's position. So he'll probably be back in his more natural midfield position.

Put Phil as the 10 and Bellingham doing box to box. Tell Bellingham to pass to Phil now and again. That's it, it's not rocket science. It can work, they're different players that can blend well if they're used properly. Then it free's up a space for a more natural wide player on the left and gets rid of having to persist with the likes of Gallagher, Arnold, Mainoo etc..

We haven't even tried this obvious set up. Good players in their best positions and a bit of balance and width. Crazy concept eh?!?
 
Cannot stand the arrogant ****. I’ve seen him play seven times this season and he’s been absolute fucking shite in all of them (2x City, CL Final and 4 England matches).

Fuck knows how he’s managed to get the PR that he has.

Ps if he’s a Number 10 then I’m a small water vole named Albert.
 
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