Jude Bellingham

Gazza said:
All depends on how you define achieving.
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Beating worse sides in tournaments and then getting knocked out by someone half decent is seen as an achievement. No doubt if we get to a semi or final the power wanking will start even though incredibly the 4 highest fancied sides have all ended up on the other half of the draw.
 
Phil1 said:
He’s not been written off by me and in your eagerness to be a **** you’ve obviously failed to read all the posts that mention how good a player he can be. I’m talking about the last 6 months or so, you’ve just fucking admitted yourself he’s had a dip so I’m not sure if your point.

@SWP's back had you right with his post tbf.
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Hahaha

Of course he did

It was more like a teenage temper tantrum

No player has not had a dip in form. I’ve read , on here, that Haaland should be dropped as he’s a liability ffs!!

Tbh Rodri is the only City player who has never really had a dip in form. Even KDB wasn’t his old self when coming back from his injury.

Stones , a fantastic footballer, has had his rocky spells and was nearly sold (if I remember correctly)
 
hilts said:
Beating worse sides in tournaments and then getting knocked out by someone half decent is seen as an achievement. No doubt if we get to a semi or final the power wanking will start even though incredibly the 4 highest fancied sides have all ended up on the other half of the draw.
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It's laughable how much good fortune England have, they remind of that lot across town it wouldn't suprise me if they fluke a win in Berlin, fortune doesn't seem to favour the brave in this tournament.
 
Phil1 said:
It’s simplistic in its nature and doesn’t take into account the cons his game brings to the England team as well as the pros.
You’re the type of fan who will forgive every other aspect of a game where a player has stunk the place out if it results in a last minute goal.
Have you checked to see if he’s got an Onlyfans?
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But as of right now, the pros are outweighing the cons, no? Is it not more simplistic to say take him out of the team because hypothetically we'll do better?
And the jibe about him stinking the place out would have more credence if literally every other England player hadn't stunk the place out; as I said, at the end of the game he'd contributed more than any other player (bar maybe Toney when you consider how impactful his introduction was).
 
He's an absolute fucking gobshite nowhere near the level he, the media or Southgate thinks. Goes missing more than a chav on a bender in Tenerife. Hopefully he's banned which forces Sir Gareth of Waistcoats hand, but I doubt it will and we'll see a midfield duo of Frank Gallagher and that little shit **** from the Rags.
 
philiph20 said:
It's laughable how much good fortune England have, they remind of that lot across town it wouldn't suprise me if they fluke a win in Berlin, fortune doesn't seem to favour the brave in this tournament.
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Unfortunately we decided to have a failed championship manager to take advantage of this huge amount of good fortune.

Lucky draw win nowt rinse and repeat. Some seem to get rather giddy beating teams whose countries have a population the size of Cheadle and are ranked accordingly.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
the backlash to him saying this proves his point.
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When he has played like he has in the last 4 England games he should keep his head down, shut his big gob, and try and improve his England performances first and foremost instead of criticising the fans who have every right to expect better performances him and the England team.
 
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BlueRockape said:
But according to snivel he is the best right back England have ever had.
Wanker
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I don't get this insistence that pundits should be ex players that have either never managed or failed miserably and ran back to the punditry lark.

Having Neville give advice on what to do is quite hilarious. The guy who failed hugely playing for England, failed as a domestic manager and was part of the most inept coaching team in that game against Iceland is hilarious..
 
Blue and true said:
No, you're just choosing not to believe the evidence that's before your eyes. Ask yourself why the greatest manager in history wanted to sign him? Why did the biggest club in the world go balls deep for him at the age of 20? You're wilfully ignoring the fact he is an exceptional young footballer. His brilliant goal, in the dying embers of the game when the pressure was dialed up, has taken us to the quarter finals; so he's already contributed more than any other England player this tournament. Is he perfect? Is he fuck. But what midfielders are at the age of 21? Fucking hell, Zidane was in and out of the Bordeaux team at his age. Any deficiencies in his game will be dealt with as he gets older. He's already achieved more than most footballers will in their entire careers. Some on here were comparing him to Daniel Sturridge earlier, Daniel fucking Sturridge.

And yes, he's petulant. But some of the greatest players ever were petulant. I'm talking about his ability as a footballer. You and a few others have an irrational dislike of him, it's hard to fathom really.
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The evidence of my eyes is that he has played poorly, and been a snide, petulant, prima donna for the entire Euros, was mediocre in the second half of the La Liga season, and played poorly and was petulant in the CL knockout rounds.

And he is a major reason why England needed the last minute equaliser in the first place, and why we have struggled throughout, and is very fortunate that shot came off.

His ability as a footballer right now is significantly less than what many—including yourself, apparently—are strangely claiming it is. You seem to be basing your entire view of him on his first 6 months at Real Madrid, whilst ignoring literally everything after that.

And my dislike of him is far from irrational. He has become Ronaldo-levels of dislikable (with the disruptive and derisive nature that comes with it). I am far from the only one that feels this way, and it certainly isn’t only City fans that hold this view, either.
 
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