You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Julian Weigl
- Thread starter Bombo
- Start date
decmancity
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 7 Nov 2010
- Messages
- 14,663
Good potentially excellent player but he isn't a replacement for Fernandinho. Isn't the same in terms of athleticism etc at all.
Edwin Edwin
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 18 May 2016
- Messages
- 456
Ridiculous player though the PL isn't for him especially as the pivot.. Suited to La Liga/BuLi.
Too soft for the PL..Rather Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.
Too soft for the PL..Rather Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.
Ridiculous player though the PL isn't for him especially as the pivot.. Suited to La Liga/BuLi.
Too soft for the PL..Rather Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.
Yeah, his passing is incredible and would thrive as the pivot when we have the ball but I, too have wondered how he would adjust to the physicality of the league. Not that I don't think he could, just think it's worth mentioning.
Edwin Edwin
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 18 May 2016
- Messages
- 456
Probably the perfect fit for our system as a deep lying playmaker but he's just one of those players who'd need to bulk up a bit before coming to the PL cause as it is the robust nature of the league would make him a passenger many a times.Yeah, his passing is incredible and would thrive as the pivot when we have the ball but I, too have wondered how he would adjust to the physicality of the league. Not that I don't think he could, just think it's worth mentioning.
He will be difficult to pry away as he only recently extended to 2021 and not sure if he actually has a transfer fee
I think if he had a choice between playing for us or Dortmund he wouldn't hesitate to pack his bags and head over to Manchester.
I think if he had a choice between playing for us or Dortmund he wouldn't hesitate to pack his bags and head over to Manchester.
Still would require a transfer fee and if Dortmund don't want to sell, they won't have to
Still would require a transfer fee and if Dortmund don't want to sell, they won't have to
Agree. But l doubt we'll think twice about the transfer fee. We'll pay whatever we have to to ensure we have the best squad possible
I think if he had a choice between playing for us or Dortmund he wouldn't hesitate to pack his bags and head over to Manchester.
I agree that the prospect of playing for us is exciting, but let's not forget:
-He's German
-He's still young and has plenty of time to make a big money move
-Dortmund signed him as a relative unheard of player. He's surely grateful to them for that and it could make him more reluctant to leave after only three seasons.
Not that I couldn't see him wanting to join, but I certainly don't think it's a formality.
I agree that the prospect of playing for us is exciting, but let's not forget:
-He's German
-He's still young and has plenty of time to make a big money move
-Dortmund signed him as a relative unheard of player. He's surely grateful to them for that and it could make him more reluctant to leave after only three seasons.
Not that I couldn't see him wanting to join, but I certainly don't think it's a formality.
Same could be said about Sane, look at how that turned out ;-)
I get what you're saying though
Same could be said about Sane, look at how that turned out ;-)
I get what you're saying though
Sane had yet to move from his boyhood club and Schalke haven't been as serious threat as Dortmund in the BuLi or CL for a while.
But I also get what you're saying ;)
I'd love if Weigl came! I think it's very possible he does, and very possible he doesn't. Hopefully Pep and Txiki can get it over the line.
BlueDejong
Well-Known Member
Ederson esque ?
Ederson followed us amidst well established Portuguese media reporting he was going to City. Though we've been linked to Weigl, indeed Pep wanted him from day one, it's not quite the same as with Ederson where it was essentially a done deal from as early as March.
That said, the kid is special, an obvious addition to the squad if we ever could manage it. Given Barcelona have been continually rebuffed, it seems difficult, but it's hard to dismiss the Pep factor.
Sign him and we have arguably the best young DM/pivot around.
His lack of play time gives me memories of the Kimmich saga, ie, an agent "leaking" about other clubs interest etc to panic the club into giving him more minutes. Let's hope that's not all there is to it.
That said, the kid is special, an obvious addition to the squad if we ever could manage it. Given Barcelona have been continually rebuffed, it seems difficult, but it's hard to dismiss the Pep factor.
Sign him and we have arguably the best young DM/pivot around.
His lack of play time gives me memories of the Kimmich saga, ie, an agent "leaking" about other clubs interest etc to panic the club into giving him more minutes. Let's hope that's not all there is to it.
ADegenerate
Well-Known Member
Ederson followed us amidst well established Portuguese media reporting he was going to City. Though we've been linked to Weigl, indeed Pep wanted him from day one, it's not quite the same as with Ederson where it was essentially a done deal from as early as March.
That said, the kid is special, an obvious addition to the squad if we ever could manage it. Given Barcelona have been continually rebuffed, it seems difficult, but it's hard to dismiss the Pep factor.
Sign him and we have arguably the best young DM/pivot around.
His lack of play time gives me memories of the Kimmich saga, ie, an agent "leaking" about other clubs interest etc to panic the club into giving him more minutes. Let's hope that's not all there is to it.
Don't watch all that much bundesliga. How's his defensive game? Tackling? What's his pace like?
Andrew___K
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2016
- Messages
- 3,802
He's slow. His tackling is, well, good but nothing special. But you're asking wrong questions mate. Weigl is basically younger and leaner carbon copy of Busi, a player taylor-made for compact possession team. Has great vision and ridiculously good footwork. In a team like Chelsea he would look underwhelming as he'd need to cover large spaces. In a team like City he'll be seen as a worldbeater.Don't watch all that much bundesliga. How's his defensive game? Tackling? What's his pace like?
ADegenerate
Well-Known Member
He's slow. His tackling is, well, good but nothing special. But you're asking wrong questions mate. Weigl is basically younger and leaner carbon copy of Busi, a player taylor-made for compact possession team. Has great vision and ridiculously good footwork. In a team like Chelsea he would look underwhelming as he'd need to cover large spaces. In a team like City he'll be seen as a worldbeater.
You're right about asking the wrong questions. I've got an agenda against Weigl and I honestly have no idea why. Possibly because I just really enjoy watching pacy destroyer types play and he's literally the opposite. Thanks for pointing that out. Gotta let it go.
How would you rate Diawara compared to Weigl 1-100 scale for each as a bonus. Trying to figure out why there haven't been any links with him. Any reasons that you can think of?
Andrew___K
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 20 Aug 2016
- Messages
- 3,802
As I see it, you simply don't need pacy destroyers in a well-functioning compact possession team - no need to defend large gaps if the team is positioned well enough. Kante would be absolutely useless in this City team. What you need is a good 'regista' with centerhalf capabilities.You're right about asking the wrong questions. I've got an agenda against Weigl and I honestly have no idea why. Possibly because I just really enjoy watching pacy destroyer types play and he's literally the opposite. Thanks for pointing that out. Gotta let it go.
How would you rate Diawara compared to Weigl 1-100 scale for each as a bonus. Trying to figure out why there haven't been any links with him. Any reasons that you can think of?
And I think players at top level cannot be both pacy destroyers and good controllers as they usually develop their strong points to overcome deficiencies. Though Rijkaard may disagree - he was both brilliant passer and athletic DM in one package. But can't remember anyone else - 'pivot' is a relatively new role, in pre-Cruyff and pre-Sacchi era teams weren't as compact as nowadays, so the position simply didn't exist in its modern interpretation.
Diawara? I started to watch Napoli regularly this season, but he's a reserve player that is rarely used. So, I'll refrain from judgement for now. Guess he befefits from Sarri's system a lot, it's difficult to say how good he would be under Pep. Many BM members rate him highly though.
Read somewhere that City were scouting Diawara at Bologna but decided to pass on him.
Last edited:
ADegenerate
Well-Known Member
As I see it, you simply don't need pacy destroyers in a well-functioning compact possession team - no need to defend large gaps if the team is positioned well enough. Kante would be absolutely useless in this City team. What you need is a good 'regista' with centerhalf capabilities.
And I think players at top level cannot be both pacy destroyers and good controllers as they usually develop their strong points to overcome deficiencies. Though Rijkaard may disagree - he was both brilliant passer and athletic DM in one package. But can't remember anyone else - 'pivot' is a relatively new role, in pre-Cruyff and pre-Sacchi era teams weren't as compact as nowadays, so the position simply didn't exist in its modern interpretation.
Diawara? I started to watch Napoli regularly this season, but he's a reserve player that is rarely used. So, I'll refrain from judgement for now. Guess he befefits from Sarri's system a lot, it's difficult to say how good he would be under Pep. Many BM members rate him highly though.
Read somewhere that City were scouting Diawara at Bologna but decided to pass on him.
Just so I don't come off looking totally clueless...I'm aware that destroyer isn't an option. I was just saying that I've got an affinity for them as entertainment. What about the Pereria guy from porto? He seems like he could have a mixture of both in him.
I reckon I should probably trust the guy who played the position to get this one right and not worry about who I'd prefer :)