Jurgen Klopp

[BayernMan]

Apparently in an interview Klopp said he will not come to England and that the Milan clubs are in talks with him.

Apparently where is this interview? Twitter exclusive lol?

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.i...-e-napoli-alla-finestra_1064166-201502a.shtml

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Apparently in an interview Klopp said he will not come to England and that the Milan clubs are in talks with him.

Apparently where is this interview? Twitter exclusive lol?

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.i...-e-napoli-alla-finestra_1064166-201502a.shtml

I don't know if this is true, but if it were it would not surprise me. My understanding is that Klopp was considered when Mancini left, that there discussions of some kind but that very early on "irreconcilable differences" between Klopp and the club became apparent and contact ended. I suspect Klopp doesn't like the role played by money in the PL and that it isn't to his taste. He did give an indication of his disillusionment with German football early in the season , when he complained that the financial structure of the game there made it impossible for any club to rival Bayern for more than a few seasons. Italy - where there is a level playing field because every team is broke - would seem to be the league which suits him best. It's a shame but he may well be a fish out of water at City for all his undoubted talents as a manager and coach.

 

[.A.]

Apparently in an interview Klopp said he will not come to England and that the Milan clubs are in talks with him.

A man who knows his limitations and wants to fuck off to a minor league.Says it all really.

Or maybe just a man who would only take the Arsenal or United jobs in England, and isn't money orientated? He's a man who's 'limitations' have taken him further in the Champions League than we've ever been on a fraction of our budget.

He might be strongly opposed to Islam, he might not like the colour blue; whatever the reasoning behind him opting not to consider the job here, good luck to him.

 

[thesilvalining]

Apparently in an interview Klopp said he will not come to England and that the Milan clubs are in talks with him.

A man who knows his limitations and wants to fuck off to a minor league.Says it all really.

Or maybe just a man who would only take the Arsenal or United jobs in England, and isn't money orientated? He's a man who's 'limitations' have taken him further in the Champions League than we've ever been on a fraction of our budget.

He might be strongly opposed to Islam, he might not like the colour blue; whatever the reasoning behind him opting not to consider the job here, good luck to him.

Or maybe the club don't want him as he doesn't play the style we want to play, and have put the ground work in to play at youth level. He's an underdog manager anyway, based firmly on counter attack- how could he counter attack with us when the other teams don't attack for us to counter?

 

[Ballertelli]

Had thought about what would happen if he became a new manager, and here's how I see it:

SORRY FOR THE HUGE POST IN ADVANCE

Klopp is an amazing manager; the players love him, and his coaching strategy (gegenpressing) is awesome in my opinion. His prefered formation is 4-2-3-1 which our team (mostly) can play in. He pushes his players to give 100% the whole 90 minutes and tells his players to play like they are "approaching every moment as though they are down a goal late in a major final." Realize this play style is not counter attacking so everyone who dismisses him because we can't counter against relegation teams. My favorite part about him though is that even though he works his players this hard he's still the "cool dad" kind of coach that players flock towards.

Our defense is probably our biggest weakness at this point and this change in style would seem to benefit all of our back 4. Clichy and zaba both have good work rates and fit the style, and our cbs would have less pressure on them and much more help from the midfield which should help manga settle in and give us the old kompany back. Denayer sounds like a great option to bring as competition for this position too. Manga can also play left back pretty effectively (at least at porto) so I think with the potential loss of kolarov we can promote angelino and have manga there for insurance. Sagna also looks set to leave and my prefered replacement would be clyne from southhampton mostly because he is young, homegrown, and is showing promise but there are a decent amount of options for us as back up right back.

That being said, we'd have to sell quite a bit of our "stars" in order to fit this style. Yaya is an obvious out, as well as nasri. Neither have the work rates or stamina to play this style. The replacement for yaya that fits this style best in my opinion would be verratti. He is young, talented, and most of all works his arse off every game. PSG would definitely be against selling him for market price but they also have been previously linked with yaya and nasri before so I'm sure we could do player plus cash for him. That makes 3 cdms that fit the style (fernando and ferna both fit this style very well imo, hard working and defensively inclined) but I think we would want one more considering how hard our players would work. I do not see us getting pogba, so I think we could get gundogan for far less and we already know he loves klopp and fits his style perfectly. As for the cam position silva is the obvious answer, but again we'd need a viable backup in case of injury or fatigue and the cam spot in this style is in charge of running the entire offense and controlling the possessions. If Marcos Lopes is good enough then we'd be in an amazing position but assuming he's not that's where de bruyne would be a great fit. Again he's another young, talented, and passionate player who is on a team that has been linked with one of our misfit stars (dzeko) several times before and desperately does not want de bruyne at bayern. Dzeko and 10 mil and we'd be theoretically even thus far with wages taking a massive decrease. That only leaves our team needing wingers. This is where our staff needs to watch the market for the smart deals. If bale becomes available we have to try to get him. Obvious talent and as much as he would help us we can not afford to let him join chelsea or even worse, become a fucking rag. Sterling is another obvious one, but we better be sure he's worth what we'd have to pay for him. Another name that I think would get a lot of attention if this all happened would be reus, and he's a personal favorite. Other wingers could be isco, brahimi, or even walcott.

Another interesting part of this is Milner. He would fit the system perfectly and with a new manager in that is known for being loved by players who knows maybe Milner could be convinced to stay.

That leaves us with:

GK:
Hart
Willy
Wright

LB:
Clichy
Angelino (manga can help if needed)

CB:
Kompany
Demi-god
Manga
Denayer

RB:
Zaba
Clyne (~10-15 mil)

CDM:
Fernando
Fernandinho
Verratti (yaya/nasri +~10 mil)
Gundogan(~15-20 mil)
Maybe zuculini if deemed good enough
*MAYBE BUT PROBABLY NOT milner

CAM:
Silva
De bruyne (Dzeko + ~10mil)
Lopes

LM:
isco/brahimi/ reus (in between 15-45 mil)
(de bruyne can play out wide)
barker if ready

RM:
bale/sterling/walcott (in between 20- 75 mil)
Navas
*MAYBE BUT PROBABLY NOT milner

ST:
Aguero
Bony
any youth players that may be ready (iheanacho, pozo, ambrose etc)

Total spent: 80-170 mil (depending on who we chose at lm and rm)

players sold:
yaya (part of trade)
Dzeko (part of trade)
nasri ~15-25 mil
Kolarov ~10 mil
Jovetic ~15 mil
Nasta ~10mil
sinclair ~3 mil
boyata ~1 mil
sagna ~1-5 mil
lampard free
richards free

total gained: 55- 68

net spent: 12- 115 mil

I know that this will never happen and sorry for the huge post, just a city fan who has been dreaming of what I'd do with city way too much haha. We'd also probably want another striker but I do not know who klopp would want in that position.

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

I am maybe minority, but I have nothing against Pellegrini and i would be happy if he stays, if we would get Klopp i would be creaming myself of course.

Speaking about Klopp, does he speak Italian or Spanish? I do remember watching his interview on TV and he said that its important for him to know language where he coaches, so he can communicate well with players, staff, whatever. Or am I tripping and dreamed that interview?

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I am maybe minority, but I have nothing against Pellegrini and i would be happy if he stays, if we would get Klopp i would be creaming myself of course.

Speaking about Klopp, does he speak Italian or Spanish? I do remember watching his interview on TV and he said that its important for him to know language where he coaches, so he can communicate well with players, staff, whatever. Or am I tripping and dreamed that interview?

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

 

[mosssideblue]

I am maybe minority, but I have nothing against Pellegrini and i would be happy if he stays, if we would get Klopp i would be creaming myself of course.

Speaking about Klopp, does he speak Italian or Spanish? I do remember watching his interview on TV and he said that its important for him to know language where he coaches, so he can communicate well with players, staff, whatever. Or am I tripping and dreamed that interview?

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

 

[andersmcfcdk]

I am maybe minority, but I have nothing against Pellegrini and i would be happy if he stays, if we would get Klopp i would be creaming myself of course.

Speaking about Klopp, does he speak Italian or Spanish? I do remember watching his interview on TV and he said that its important for him to know language where he coaches, so he can communicate well with players, staff, whatever. Or am I tripping and dreamed that interview?

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

This is where I think Pellegrini has failed, he hasn't reacted in any way on the problems we've had. Touré clearly doesn't want to defend, but Pellegrini still plays him in midfield, he should've dropped him a long time ago. This is just one example, but Touré isn't the only who tend to not want to work for the team. It is Pellegrini's problem to deal with this, as you mentioned he should've dropped the players who aren't doing what they're supposed to do, changed the style of play, the formation, anything, but Pellegrini hasn't done anything significantly.

I don't think Pellegrini the right manager to rebuild this team, most of the signings he's made haven't delivered, and he seems to completely ignore our youth policy. For example, why on earth didn't he give Pozo a chance against West Ham last weekend, he chose to play Dzeko in stead of Pozo in the last minutes, where the already was over. There are so many things that tells me he isn't the right manager for us.

 

[mosssideblue]

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

This is where I think Pellegrini has failed, he hasn't reacted in any way on the problems we've had. Touré clearly doesn't want to defend, but Pellegrini still plays him in midfield, he should've dropped him a long time ago. This is just one example, but Touré isn't the only who tend to not want to work for the team. It is Pellegrini's problem to deal with this, as you mentioned he should've dropped the players who aren't doing what they're supposed to do, changed the style of play, the formation, anything, but Pellegrini hasn't done anything significantly.

I don't think Pellegrini the right manager to rebuild this team, most of the signings he's made haven't delivered, and he seems to completely ignore our youth policy. For example, why on earth didn't he give Pozo a chance against West Ham last weekend, he chose to play Dzeko in stead of Pozo in the last minutes, where the already was over. There are so many things that tells me he isn't the right manager for us.

I respect your opinions. If he was to drop the main culprits, he would have fielded a much weakened team and would have been slaughtered on here for it. As I say, he might see eveyone busting a gut mid week and has no reason to think they will do what they do on matchday.

As for Pozo, the match wasn't won and still had plenty of time to run. A quick goal by the hammers and it would have been panic. Apart from that, he is not ready IMO.

 

[mosssideblue]

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

This is where I think Pellegrini has failed, he hasn't reacted in any way on the problems we've had. Touré clearly doesn't want to defend, but Pellegrini still plays him in midfield, he should've dropped him a long time ago. This is just one example, but Touré isn't the only who tend to not want to work for the team. It is Pellegrini's problem to deal with this, as you mentioned he should've dropped the players who aren't doing what they're supposed to do, changed the style of play, the formation, anything, but Pellegrini hasn't done anything significantly.

I don't think Pellegrini the right manager to rebuild this team, most of the signings he's made haven't delivered, and he seems to completely ignore our youth policy. For example, why on earth didn't he give Pozo a chance against West Ham last weekend, he chose to play Dzeko in stead of Pozo in the last minutes, where the already was over. There are so many things that tells me he isn't the right manager for us.

I respect your opinions. If he was to drop the main culprits, he would have fielded a much weakened team and would have been slaughtered on here for it. As I say, he might see eveyone busting a gut mid week and has no reason to think they will do what they do on matchday.

As for Pozo, the match wasn't won and still had plenty of time to run. A quick goal by the hammers and it would have been panic. Apart from that, he is not ready IMO.

 

[sam-caddick]

https://vine.co/v/eW3TQM7VaT7

I would love my manager to be like this.

Klopp would get the Etihad rocking.

 

[TrueBlue1705]

He would raise the profile of the club - not to mention that he's probably a far better coach/manager than Pellegerini.... Its a no brainer, we've gone backwards now and you can point to some ageing players and FFP restrictions but we can't even do some basics well at the moment plus there's a distinct lack of determination and heart from some players .... I am be baffled as to why Pellegrini continues to back Yaya and gives him the armband In Kompany's absence.... its mind-blowing!!!

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I am maybe minority, but I have nothing against Pellegrini and i would be happy if he stays, if we would get Klopp i would be creaming myself of course.

Speaking about Klopp, does he speak Italian or Spanish? I do remember watching his interview on TV and he said that its important for him to know language where he coaches, so he can communicate well with players, staff, whatever. Or am I tripping and dreamed that interview?

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

Pellegrini as stuck to a rigid formation unless forced to change by injuries, he should have the expertise to change tactics, formation etc when facing different issues which he as not done so.

Also if key players are not turning up then do what he said from the beginning and pick players on form like he dropped Hart last year.

Maybe this is an issue certain players have seeing the inept performances of say Yaya and he is still selected it is called favouring one over another and causes unrest.

 

[mosssideblue]

A lot of people have nothing against Pellegrini and he is a good man but most would not be happy with another year of bad management.

We have a big summer and can't waste any more money we need to undertake a big over haul of the team and can't see the positives of Pellegrini doing this.

Klopp would

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

Pellegrini as stuck to a rigid formation unless forced to change by injuries, he should have the expertise to change tactics, formation etc when facing different issues which he as not done so.

Also if key players are not turning up then do what he said from the beginning and pick players on form like he dropped Hart last year.

Maybe this is an issue certain players have seeing the inept performances of say Yaya and he is still selected it is called favouring one over another and causes unrest.

Then again, we don't fookin know

 

[Tez Tosterone]

Apparently where is this interview? Twitter exclusive lol?

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.i...-e-napoli-alla-finestra_1064166-201502a.shtml

I don't know if this is true, but if it were it would not surprise me. My understanding is that Klopp was considered when Mancini left, that there discussions of some kind but that very early on "irreconcilable differences" between Klopp and the club became apparent and contact ended. I suspect Klopp doesn't like the role played by money in the PL and that it isn't to his taste. He did give an indication of his disillusionment with German football early in the season , when he complained that the financial structure of the game there made it impossible for any club to rival Bayern for more than a few seasons. Italy - where there is a level playing field because every team is broke - would seem to be the league which suits him best. It's a shame but he may well be a fish out of water at City for all his undoubted talents as a manager and coach.

The "irreconcilable differences" between Klopp and the club may well have something to do with his potential input in signing transfer targets, assuming we have held informal or formal talks with him. As I speculated the other day, it is unlikely that any MP replacement would find himself any different in respect of having almost complete control over the selection of said transfer targets a la Wenger.

To be honest, If he were to come to England, I'd imagine that both Arsenal and Liverpool would be more likely willing to acknowledge and respect his input playerwise. That said, I cannot see Arsene Wenger leaving anytime soon. On the other hand Brendan Rodgers appears to be a little vulnerable at the moment with CL qualification after another crap performance last night at Hull.

I'd say that either of the two Milan sides would look at hiring him, especially AC where Pippo Inzaghi looks dogmeat. He will definitely be sacked in the next 21 days. Mancini will be given more time at Inter.

 

[blueparrot]

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.i...-e-napoli-alla-finestra_1064166-201502a.shtml

I don't know if this is true, but if it were it would not surprise me. My understanding is that Klopp was considered when Mancini left, that there discussions of some kind but that very early on "irreconcilable differences" between Klopp and the club became apparent and contact ended. I suspect Klopp doesn't like the role played by money in the PL and that it isn't to his taste. He did give an indication of his disillusionment with German football early in the season , when he complained that the financial structure of the game there made it impossible for any club to rival Bayern for more than a few seasons. Italy - where there is a level playing field because every team is broke - would seem to be the league which suits him best. It's a shame but he may well be a fish out of water at City for all his undoubted talents as a manager and coach.

The "irreconcilable differences" between Klopp and the club may well have something to do with his potential input in signing transfer targets, assuming we have held informal or formal talks with him. As I speculated the other day, it is unlikely that any MP replacement would find himself any different in respect of having almost complete control over the selection of said transfer targets a la Wenger.

To be honest, If he were to come to England, I'd imagine that both Arsenal and Liverpool would be more likely willing to acknowledge and respect his input playerwise. That said, I cannot see Arsene Wenger leaving anytime soon. On the other hand Brendan Rodgers appears to be a little vulnerable at the moment with CL qualification after another crap performance last night at Hull.

I'd say that either of the two Milan sides would look at hiring him, especially AC where Pippo Inzaghi looks dogmeat. He will definitely be sacked in the next 21 days. Mancini will be given more time at Inter.

Wherever Klopp has managed and will manage in the future it will be with a DOF, so I doubt that has anything to do with it. I think the only reason he didn't come before was he didn't want to leave Dortmund.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I think bad management is a little strong. This is probably the first year in his mangerial career where he has several key players wantingly not turning up on a regular basis. Would any other manager have coped and have us challenging for the title this year under those circumstances - I dont see how they could.

Drop the players would be the obvious retort, but our strength in depth is a myth. I suspect also the key cohorts would putting a shift in during the week and then set out to shaft the manager on match day.

I think we perhaps do need a change, but I will not be sorry if Pellers remains next year. I just hope between him and the board, they act without any sympathy on the players who are doing this club damage either on the pitch or behind the scenes.

Pellegrini as stuck to a rigid formation unless forced to change by injuries, he should have the expertise to change tactics, formation etc when facing different issues which he as not done so.

Also if key players are not turning up then do what he said from the beginning and pick players on form like he dropped Hart last year.

Maybe this is an issue certain players have seeing the inept performances of say Yaya and he is still selected it is called favouring one over another and causes unrest.

Then again, we don't fookin know

We know he's fookin tactically inept and hasn't stood by only picking players on form

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

Ffs stop it. Pellegrini is good manager, hes not the very top tier, but he is good nonetheless. Some of you are talking like he is some fucking Steve Bruce

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Ffs stop it. Pellegrini is good manager, hes not the very top tier, but he is good nonetheless. Some of you are talking like he is some fucking Steve Bruce

Good compared to who maybe Steve Bruce but not good enough for a club looking for success in Europe.

I like the man but not the manager