juve ticket fiasco

GSW Blue said:
I go to most games (6000+ points) and am going next week but the loyalty points system has concerned me for a while.

How do young fans get anywhere near the front of the queue when those of us that were there at the start of the points scheme keep going?

To address this issue and give younger fans a chance to catch up, I would give more points per match to fans who are under 30?
Most of us have started up as that young lad trying to get tickets and failing because we didn't have enough points. It takes time but eventually you work your way up the points ladder.
 
if you want the perfect system, it has to be one that evolves, and allows new fans on to the system, without alienating those who have done the time, and this is what i would do, even though it would not benefit me at all.

basically i would make the loyalty points a 5 year cycle (or similar time frame), basically only the points from the last 5 years at any one time count.

our system has been in place for 7 years now, so the points awarded in the first 2 years of the system would now have expired, but obviously if you continue to go you are maintaining your position, but those lapsed supporters from the start of the system would be effectively overtaken by the next generation, thus allowing them dibs at the big games.

hope that makes some semblance of sense.
 
fathellensbellend said:
if you want the perfect system, it has to be one that evolves, and allows new fans on to the system, without alienating those who have done the time, and this is what i would do, even though it would not benefit me at all.

basically i would make the loyalty points a 5 year cycle (or similar time frame), basically only the points from the last 5 years at any one time count.

our system has been in place for 7 years now, so the points awarded in the first 2 years of the system would now have expired, but obviously if you continue to go you are maintaining your position, but those lapsed supporters from the start of the system would be effectively overtaken by the next generation, thus allowing them dibs at the big games.

hope that makes some semblance of sense.

so we need a point at bolton away to win the title and you(or i) miss out on a ticket to accommodate "new" fans?

not sure thats right and proper.
 
de niro said:
fathellensbellend said:
if you want the perfect system, it has to be one that evolves, and allows new fans on to the system, without alienating those who have done the time, and this is what i would do, even though it would not benefit me at all.

basically i would make the loyalty points a 5 year cycle (or similar time frame), basically only the points from the last 5 years at any one time count.

our system has been in place for 7 years now, so the points awarded in the first 2 years of the system would now have expired, but obviously if you continue to go you are maintaining your position, but those lapsed supporters from the start of the system would be effectively overtaken by the next generation, thus allowing them dibs at the big games.

hope that makes some semblance of sense.

so we need a point at bolton away to win the title and you(or i) miss out on a ticket to accommodate "new" fans?

not sure thats right and proper.

the system would reward those whom have been the most in the last 5 years.

i think the system is great at the minute, but loads seem to kick up a fuss, even though west ham hasnt sold out which undermines their arguement greatly.

when i started going regularly away, the big games were sold to regular season ticket holders 1st and downward through the season tickets status level, ie regular,4th yr 3rd tr etc, the incentive was to get your regular season ticket, i still often had to do a 300 mile round trip, queue up through the night, and this was sometimes when there wasn't a game at home, i did it, cos i wanted to be at the match, i dont think some of the fans now are willing to do the time, just moan at what is effectively a great system.

my idea is i believe similar to what england have.
 
The system generally works well but there are flaws:

The idea that points should lapse after 5 years is sound IMO.

Also I think a lot of games don't deserve loyalty points at all ( those where there are clearly not enough tickets to meet demand) and other games deserve more (against the less attractive opposition or less important games). Maybe they could also be used to compensate for the high cost of some away games? Those paying £50 plus huge travel costs should be rewarded.

Finally, the tiered sale system, by delaying Citycard and General Sale, does make it more difficult to sell out some games. This is a balancing act but I would like to see sale to Citycard holders at bit further in advance of the game.
 
fathellensbellend said:
if you want the perfect system, it has to be one that evolves, and allows new fans on to the system, without alienating those who have done the time, and this is what i would do, even though it would not benefit me at all.

basically i would make the loyalty points a 5 year cycle (or similar time frame), basically only the points from the last 5 years at any one time count.

our system has been in place for 7 years now, so the points awarded in the first 2 years of the system would now have expired, but obviously if you continue to go you are maintaining your position, but those lapsed supporters from the start of the system would be effectively overtaken by the next generation, thus allowing them dibs at the big games.

hope that makes some semblance of sense.

I 100% agree with this. In fact if you were to search through my post history to some time last year I posted exactly the same suggestion, for exactly the same reasons.

I don't understand the point De Niro is trying to make. Surely Bolton tickets in that situation should go to those who have been going home and away every game during the last 5 years, ahead of those who miss a few they don't fancy each year, but have more points simply because they are older.
 
It can be done, last time we went to charlton i think it was 2004? I had 200 points. Now going to nearly every game since then next season i should be on about 5300ish. Think i done well tbh. Amazing how fast you can build them up. Every away apart from scum and blackpool will normally go general sale so there is no problem about gettinf it in your own name.
 

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