Kalidou Koulibaly

Vinny learned to play there at PL level though. He was bitched by Peter Crouch when he first tried moving back there from midfield. And he was a bit David Luiz in his younger days at cb pre City

But he had the required stuff to work with.

Why we fuck around trying to teach little no marks like Garcia to defend I just don't get.

If it's not Koulibali, or another big singing, find a Vinny shaped character, with a brain & skill & teach him to defend instead of wasting time with a shit slow kid.

That fucking goal the lanky twat scored against us, for Stoke, was unreal. Always against us when some cuunt scores a Worldie.
 
There is no point in them kerping him imo.

They will just finish him off early.

But equally, we should be buying at a reasonable price or walking away, for the same reason.

Given what you said about preseason etc. though how much of a premium would you pay to get him now as opposed to late September (remembering the window shuts 5th Otober)
 
Rodri has already shown enough imo, that he could learn the job, albeit not having great pace.

There must be some fucker in Argentina or Brazil, or even Holland, who we could coach, surely ?

I guess the club will see that as a risk after failing to get the best out of other promising players. That and I think that traditional scouting is a bit of a dying art form and seems to have given way to statistical analytics at senior level.
 
Sorry, you've spent the last 10 years watching Mangala, Demichelis, Otamendi and Stones (and Laporte in the CL last year) and you can't imagine a CB in our side because he's prone to big rash errors???

I can’t imagine him doing well.

I don’t want to have to imagine him in our side at all. Unfortunately I can’t think of anyone suitable right now.

Upamecano is young enough to adapt perhaps.
 
Lets be honest, one bad game against the likes of Messi, Suarez, Griezmann not gonna turn any CB into shit from decent, but its a perfect chance for Txiki to go to De Laurentiis and tell him, now 15m price drop bitch after his shit high level game, take it or leave it and try to sell him next summer when he is 30.

He has the skills needed in a Pep defence, but also he is 29 and just had imo the worst season in his last 5 year.
This does not warrant a fee of 80-90m pounds.

Offer 50m and try to work his agent to make him want to leave.
50m + 10m add ons maybe depending on him winning CL here and PL titles. (5m if he wins CL and 1.5m for every PL title he is part of.)

I would not go higher.

And try to get at least 30 for Stones, which would bankroll half of this purchase.

Napoli does not have CL next year, thats a big income drop, also just spent around 50m pounds on Osimhen. They need the Koulibaly money imo for FFP too, certainly they try to milk us hard if they can.
 
I guess the club will see that as a risk after failing to get the best out of other promising players. That and I think that traditional scouting is a bit of a dying art form and seems to have given way to statistical analytics at senior level.

I like the look of some of the kids we have signed/ been linked with recently. But not especially the little Barca ones.

The Brazillian kids look very peomising to me.
 
Lets be honest, one bad game against the likes of Messi, Suarez, Griezmann not gonna turn any CB into shit from decent, but its a perfect chance for Txiki to go to De Laurentiis and tell him, now 15m price drop bitch after his shit high level game, take it or leave it and try to sell him next summer when he is 30.

He has the skills needed in a Pep defence, but also he is 29 and just had imo the worst season in his last 5 year.
This does not warrant a fee of 80-90m pounds.

Offer 50m and try to work his agent to make him want to leave.
50m + 10m add ons maybe depending on him winning CL here and PL titles. (5m if he wins CL and 1.5m for every PL title he is part of.)

I would not go higher.

And try to get at least 30 for Stones, which would bankroll half of this purchase.

Napoli does not have CL next year, thats a big income drop, also just spent around 50m pounds on Osimhen. They need the Koulibaly money imo for FFP too, certainly they try to milk us hard if they can.

The Osimhen deal involved 3 players valued at 5m each and has a mass of add ons that may never even be met. Very little cash exchanging hands. Sign of Napoli’s legendary hard negotiating, or sign of a club with limited cash to spend? My money is on the latter.
 
Is he good? Yes
Could Guardiola make him better? Yes
Is he playing in a good side? No
Would he be playing with better players here? Yes
Is he going to cost as much as rumoured? No

But he’s too old, he’s 29! Fernandinho (35) played the most minutes of any central defender this season.
But he reminds me of Mangala! Can’t help you with that.
Dinho has had eight years of practise with us
 

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