Kalidou Koulibaly

blueparrot said:
The problem yesterday and in the Arsenal semi wasn’t how high the line was it was how straight the line was.
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Our high line isn’t the problem, we got 100 points and 98 points with a high line. That’s not changed.

What’s changed is that we don’t press the ball anymore in midfield and up front.

Playing a high line without pressure on the ball is absolute suicide in England because teams will just knock it over the top.

Pep seemed to learn that in his first season. But he seems to have completely forgotten it and continues his worrisome and baffling obsession with Gundogan who can’t press. And he’s bought Rodri who can’t press and a Mahrez who won’t press.

It’s absolutely bizarre that he can’t see it.
 
Is KK a leader? Is he vocal and will he get after others who are not pulling their weight in the midst of the game? I think we desperately lack an assertive leader... DSil isn't and hasn't been that and is gone, Fern has some of it but not working. KDB is not that type despite how good he is. Laporte is not that type. We need a defensive leader who will organize from the back and direct and hold others accountable. If KK isn't capable I see him as a 2-3 year expensive placeholder whom we hope will begin to regain some of his older form.
 
Zenmanc said:
Is KK a leader? Is he vocal and will he get after others who are not pulling their weight in the midst of the game? I think we desperately lack an assertive leader... DSil isn't and hasn't been that and is gone, Fern has some of it but not working. KDB is not that type despite how good he is. Laporte is not that type. We need a defensive leader who will organize from the back and direct and hold others accountable. If KK isn't capable I see him as a 2-3 year expensive placeholder whom we hope will begin to regain some of his older form.
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When you say leader, ideally we are looking for a Vinnie player. I don't know if Koulibaly is a leader, but I think he would improve our defence and is an upgrade on Stones and Otamendi.
 
Zenmanc said:
Is KK a leader? Is he vocal and will he get after others who are not pulling their weight in the midst of the game? I think we desperately lack an assertive leader... DSil isn't and hasn't been that and is gone, Fern has some of it but not working. KDB is not that type despite how good he is. Laporte is not that type. We need a defensive leader who will organize from the back and direct and hold others accountable. If KK isn't capable I see him as a 2-3 year expensive placeholder whom we hope will begin to regain some of his older form.
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Will we find someone who is 23, from wherever, who has perhaps won fuck all, who will step into the Premier League & start 'leading' a bunch of multi title winners ?
 
Neville Kneville said:
Will we find someone who is 23, from wherever, who has perhaps won fuck all, who will step into the Premier League & start 'leading' a bunch of multi title winners ?
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IDK. But to my question and I'm legit asking as IDK: is KK a leader? And btw isn't KK a player who has essentially won... Fuck all?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
He's played him all over the shop and it says a lot for Foden, he seems to be able to cope.

Foden would give us the legs and technique to thrive.

I'd argue he's not much physically dissimilar than Fernandinho, very strong and wiry?
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I would love to see us bring in Aouar and have a midfield 3 with Kev, Phil, Bernardo, Aouar, Doyle and Rodri to choose from.
 
Seems like Napoli might be in a rush to get this deal concluded and stop the mind games now. A deal for Gabriel has been agreed and supposedly Lille have given them a few days to sort their stuff out or else he’ll be sold to another party. Could be a big week ahead.
 
Zenmanc said:
IDK. But to my question and I'm legit asking as IDK: is KK a leader? And btw isn't KK a player who has essentially won... Fuck all?
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He was part of the Napoli Copa Italia winning squad this year. In my humble opinion he is a leader and an organiser of the backline. I'm not an expert but I have watched some Serie A over the few years and I have all ways been impressed by his no nonsense pure defending ability. He can play if that's what's needed , but he can all so keep it simple and get ungly if required.

I'm not saying he is the solution, but he is a very good pure defender.
 
I am a Napoli fan I will use Google for the translation so sorry if it will not be very clear

It is so sad to see these words about kouli ... You will see, if they buy it you will love it more than any player. He hasn't been wrong for three years and every match gives you the feeling of recovering impossible balls. Remember what I'm going to say, this is Messi from defense, not VVD. You are too pessimistic, if kouli returns to the level of a year ago, (everyone can lose a season) you will win all the titles ... Guys, you should trust those who see him play every Sunday, in 30 years of games I have never seen a such fantastic defender, we'll hear from you soon, you'll thank Napoli. One last thing; in Naples he became a leader after many years, he is not a very strong character, if you are looking for a leader you must find him in your team, not one who has never won anything, or almost nothing. For the price; it's hard to put a price on such a player. Messi, neymar mbappe are priceless. This year's koulibaly for 80 million is fine, but the Koulibaly of a year ago was like these other players I mentioned, it's priceless. So please don't compare it to Ake upamecano kamara ... My eyes are bleeding. These are perhaps the players that Napoli should replace, not Man City ...
 
Kaora said:
I am a Napoli fan I will use Google for the translation so sorry if it will not be very clear

It is so sad to see these words about kouli ... You will see, if they buy it you will love it more than any player. He hasn't been wrong for three years and every match gives you the feeling of recovering impossible balls. Remember what I'm going to say, this is Messi from defense, not VVD. You are too pessimistic, if kouli returns to the level of a year ago, (everyone can lose a season) you will win all the titles ... Guys, you should trust those who see him play every Sunday, in 30 years of games I have never seen a such fantastic defender, we'll hear from you soon, you'll thank Napoli. One last thing; in Naples he became a leader after many years, he is not a very strong character, if you are looking for a leader you must find him in your team, not one who has never won anything, or almost nothing. For the price; it's hard to put a price on such a player. Messi, neymar mbappe are priceless. This year's koulibaly for 80 million is fine, but the Koulibaly of a year ago was like these other players I mentioned, it's priceless. So please don't compare it to Ake upamecano kamara ... My eyes are bleeding. These are perhaps the players that Napoli should replace, not Man City ...
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I can feel you gesturing with your hands while typing this haha!
Thanks for the comments. Most people have been put off by the performance against Barcelona which is understandable.

P.s. Gommorah is the best show I've seen on TV since Breaking Bad.
 
Kaora said:
I am a Napoli fan I will use Google for the translation so sorry if it will not be very clear

It is so sad to see these words about kouli ... You will see, if they buy it you will love it more than any player. He hasn't been wrong for three years and every match gives you the feeling of recovering impossible balls. Remember what I'm going to say, this is Messi from defense, not VVD. You are too pessimistic, if kouli returns to the level of a year ago, (everyone can lose a season) you will win all the titles ... Guys, you should trust those who see him play every Sunday, in 30 years of games I have never seen a such fantastic defender, we'll hear from you soon, you'll thank Napoli. One last thing; in Naples he became a leader after many years, he is not a very strong character, if you are looking for a leader you must find him in your team, not one who has never won anything, or almost nothing. For the price; it's hard to put a price on such a player. Messi, neymar mbappe are priceless. This year's koulibaly for 80 million is fine, but the Koulibaly of a year ago was like these other players I mentioned, it's priceless. So please don't compare it to Ake upamecano kamara ... My eyes are bleeding. These are perhaps the players that Napoli should replace, not Man City ...
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dont worry mate people are fickle and reactionary based on one game. I am certain Kouli is a top 5 defender in the world and if we sign him he will be fantastic for us.
 
It's a pleasure to talk about football, especially when it comes to defending Kouli! He made many mistakes with Barcelona, and it has happened several times this year, but I am convinced that in your team, fast and high defense, the alien we have seen for years will return. I'm glad you liked Gomorrah, but I want to tell you that it doesn't represent Naples, here everything is different from that program, those places exist, but they never enter the everyday life of ordinary citizens. I like to visit football forums, on the Lille forum it was said that we bought Osimhen with the money of the Camorra ... Gomorrah caused this too, which is an inhuman stupidity. So come to Naples, you will definitely like it
 
Damanino said:
This needs to be properly analyzed before we go and spend big on this guy.

The way we defend will make any defender in the world looking like shit.

a 29 year old who will start to get slower soon in a much quicker league than Serie A with zero resale value in 3 years in a team where there are next to nothing help from defensive midfield...

We might be putting extreme amount of pressure on Koulibaly to fill a gap which gap is caused by the tactics and our pressing and off the ball workrate, discipline from attackers, midfielders, fullbacks not only CB's...

Clearly Pep does not trust Stones and Otamendi anymore. But I am 100% sure Koulibaly will look worse in a defence like ours then in a defence like Napoli who play slower football, are hit much less with counters as they play less attacking football than us, in a much slower league and with more help provided for defenders than here where Gundogan is hardly helping hile Rodri is just not a top class DM who is screening defences.
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If we buy him, I’ll welcome him as warmly as the next man. However I share your concern. We can either stick rigidly to our system, and spend a fortune on the latest miracle worker, or we can modify the way we play and buy for the longer term.
 
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