Kalvin Phillips

The two things that have changed my mind on him, from thinking "he could still make it" to "we need to cut out losses";

1. When he got back from the world cup, it wasn't the drama over the weight gain, but the fact he took the full week or two weeks all the players got afterwards. He'd been out for the first half of the season in a team that's hard to break into and the club had supported him in undergoing surgery to get him fit for the world cup - then he barely played, a few mins here and there. Then took a long break, that sure he was entitled to, but for someone who should be hungry to break into a team he really should have been doing everything he could, he should have wanted to be back sooner than the rest.

2. And this ties into the first one, he keeps going on about "all players perform better in their second season" and if you watch his documentary on Amazon his agent does too. The problem is, it clicks in the second season if you are playing, and if you haven't been then showing up and training hard isn't enough, you need to be doing extra. And I just get the impression from his documentary and his quotes that, lovely guy, but he thinks it will just click if he keeps doing what he is doing.

If it's a wage issue, send him on loan and pay the difference.
I remember a certain Bernardo Silva coming back crazy early from his summer holidays simply because we were so short of players.

His attitude post WC sums up his time at the club.

The shoulder injury was a terrible start for him, but once fit would you not expect him to give everything to contribute to our club.
 
Complicated situation, as T points out.



He's not wanted, that much I believe. I think Pep's lost interest. He wants the nasty competitive edge to come through. If Pep can't get it from him, then it's time he went somewhere else.

Club can't be too nasty about it, or heavy handed. There's little point, and it could result in repercussions. And there's politics everywhere. He's under the CAA Stellar banner. CAA Base represent Lewis and Palmer *cough* and Eze *cough*.
 
You like Phillips as a person or a footballer? Huge difference.
Both. I do think there are areas where he needs to improve his game (mainly, his passing becomes sloppy when he loses concentration). But we've seen plenty of players go from 'not so good' to world beaters under Pep (Ake, Rodri, Foden, Stones etc). I think he has quite a good character. If you watch England's penalty shootout vs Italy, he's the first to run over and console Saka - I know it's a jump to say that makes him a great guy, but I do see signs of a leader there.

I think there must be more behind the scenes that we don't know about, though. Pep does not trust him at all.
 
Complicated situation, as T points out.



He's not wanted, that much I believe. I think Pep's lost interest. He wants the nasty competitive edge to come through. If Pep can't get it from him, then it's time he went somewhere else.

Club can't be too nasty about it, or heavy handed. There's little point, and it could result in repercussions. And there's politics everywhere. He's under the CAA Stellar banner. CAA Base represent Lewis and Palmer *cough* and Eze *cough*.

I’m not really sure as to why we’d be handing over half of his total compensation if he were to move.

Surely we’d only be liable, at the most, for the difference between his wages here and his new club. I’m not sure he’d be dropping shown to 75k per week if he were to go the dippers or another prem side.

Also, I take the point about how his move could have repercussions and unintended consequences re other players, but I would imagine his agents would want to stay on the right side of City as well. Would they really want to sour their relations with the top club in Europe because of one player whose biggest pay day is already behind him?

Phillips has hardly been a good advert for the agents involved and I would imagine they’ll be eager to move on from it all as well.
 
If other players are brought in to cover his position his england career is down the pan.
 
Complicated situation, as T points out.



He's not wanted, that much I believe. I think Pep's lost interest. He wants the nasty competitive edge to come through. If Pep can't get it from him, then it's time he went somewhere else.

Club can't be too nasty about it, or heavy handed. There's little point, and it could result in repercussions. And there's politics everywhere. He's under the CAA Stellar banner. CAA Base represent Lewis and Palmer *cough* and Eze *cough*.

Pep is doing everything he needs to without humiliating him. He's in the matchday squads and training with the first-team. We're not making him train with the EDS or ostracising him. Pep is not obliged to give him minutes though, so it appears that we're going through the motions hoping that he gets the message.
 

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