Karim Rekik

[aguero93:20]

@Neville off topic but what do you think of Zuculini so far?

Very impressed so far. Obviously we have only played v shit teams, & it's very early days, but he looks pretty good at everything. He has an ability to ghost into the box from pretty much any position.

What do you recon ?

Looks promising, don't know whether it's being freed from the holding role or surrounded by better players but he looks better already than from what I saw of him at racing, just a pity he won't be involved with the first team this season.

 

[Neville Kneville]

@Neville off topic but what do you think of Zuculini so far?

Very impressed so far. Obviously we have only played v shit teams, & it's very early days, but he looks pretty good at everything. He has an ability to ghost into the box from pretty much any position.

What do you recon ?

Looks promising, don't know whether it's being freed from the holding role or surrounded by better players but he looks better already than from what I saw of him at racing, just a pity he won't be involved with the first team this season.

I thought he looked good at Racing & scored running from deep there.

Do we know for sure he is being loaned out, or is it just rumours ?

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Not on the basis of that game it isn't. He was all over the shop. Let's see how he does in the others.

I can't believe there is a City fan hoping a young player fails so he can be proved right.

Well your going to be proved wrong and Rekik is going to succeed.

He has grown substantially and you can see his ability on the ball.

In case you weren't aware friendlies are there to get players up to match fitness and gett he team to gel before the big kick off.

They are not serious games!

Excuse me? If you disagree with me then fine, give me some examples of things he did DEFENSIVELY that make you think he should be included in the first team setup, which is what I was referring to.

Otherwise, if you can't discuss football without accusing a lifelong City fan who has been watching kids football since the 60s of WANTING a player to fail, just fuck off & ignore my posts, you utter wanker.

I would LOVE Rekik to make it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to watch him do stuff I fucking KNOW is wrong & sit there like a fucking dummy just because cunts like you want to censor it. Up yours.

This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't do glue kids.

 

[aguero93:20]

Very impressed so far. Obviously we have only played v shit teams, & it's very early days, but he looks pretty good at everything. He has an ability to ghost into the box from pretty much any position.

What do you recon ?

Looks promising, don't know whether it's being freed from the holding role or surrounded by better players but he looks better already than from what I saw of him at racing, just a pity he won't be involved with the first team this season.

I thought he looked good at Racing & scored running from deep there.

Do we know for sure he is being loaned out, or is it just rumours ?

Can't see us making room for him from the foreign quota this year so i presume he's going on loan, could be a big player for us in a year or two though hopefully.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I can't believe there is a City fan hoping a young player fails so he can be proved right.

Well your going to be proved wrong and Rekik is going to succeed.

He has grown substantially and you can see his ability on the ball.

In case you weren't aware friendlies are there to get players up to match fitness and gett he team to gel before the big kick off.

They are not serious games!

Excuse me? If you disagree with me then fine, give me some examples of things he did DEFENSIVELY that make you think he should be included in the first team setup, which is what I was referring to.

Otherwise, if you can't discuss football without accusing a lifelong City fan who has been watching kids football since the 60s of WANTING a player to fail, just fuck off & ignore my posts, you utter wanker.

I would LOVE Rekik to make it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to watch him do stuff I fucking KNOW is wrong & sit there like a fucking dummy just because c**ts like you want to censor it. Up yours.

This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't do glue kids.

That's not especially clever or funny tbh & isn't really a good example of why kids shouldn't do glue.

But at least you are trying, that's the main thing.

 

[LoveCity]

Zuculini could remain as a free selection (U21 eligibility for one more year) but the club look to be sending him on loan to La Liga. Deportivo want him but Valencia have made moves, the problem begin that unlike the former they can't guarantee weekly games as they have a good midfield. With this being his first year outside of Argentina, it will be important he plays a lot, otherwise he could definitely be considered for the 4th central midfield role already.

As for Rekik, it's interesting that City apparently have enough faith in him that they're willing to cash in on Nastasic and promote Rekik to fill his role. I don't think Rekik is as good as Nastasic yet, but they may see a big picture and the homegrown + club-trained thing is likely to play a part in that decision. If Rekik is pushed into the 4th defender role, it'll probably our first success story from the youth setup since Boyata's breakout (which sadly went wrong all too quickly...) because despite so much promise in our academy (Lopes, etc.), none have become *definite* first-team squad members yet.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Zuculini could remain as a free selection (U21 eligibility for one more year) but the club look to be sending him on loan to La Liga. Deportivo want him but Valencia have made moves, the problem begin that unlike the former they can't guarantee weekly games as they have a good midfield. With this being his first year outside of Argentina, it will be important he plays a lot, otherwise he could definitely be considered for the 4th central midfield role already.

As for Rekik, it's interesting that City apparently have enough faith in him that they're willing to cash in on Nastasic and promote Rekik to fill his role. I don't think Rekik is as good as Nastasic yet, but they may see a big picture and the homegrown + club-trained thing is likely to play a part in that decision. If Rekik is pushed into the 4th defender role, it'll probably our first success story from the youth setup since Boyata's breakout (which sadly went wrong all too quickly...) because despite so much promise in our academy (Lopes, etc.), none have become *definite* first-team squad members yet.

I'm not a fan of Nastasic so far in his City career, but I think he looks very sharp in these pre season games & is getting involved more coming out & defending, as is Boyata. Rekik isn't, so unless he starts doing it successfully very soon, I recon Pellegrini will go with Nastasic & Boyata because they are doing what he wants. Dedryk looks like he's getting his confidence back to me. He was a shoe in for the future cb job until Mancini threw him to the lions.

There is also the question of Denayer, who also looked considerably better than Rekik or Boyata in his half game imo, albeit guilty of some daft moments. I would have him in v Milan if I was the manager & see what Mario & Co do to him. If they take him to the cleaners we know he's not ready but if he responds to the challenge, give him another try v Liverpool, perhaps with Rekik.

 

[Centurions]

Zuculini could remain as a free selection (U21 eligibility for one more year) but the club look to be sending him on loan to La Liga. Deportivo want him but Valencia have made moves, the problem begin that unlike the former they can't guarantee weekly games as they have a good midfield. With this being his first year outside of Argentina, it will be important he plays a lot, otherwise he could definitely be considered for the 4th central midfield role already.

As for Rekik, it's interesting that City apparently have enough faith in him that they're willing to cash in on Nastasic and promote Rekik to fill his role. I don't think Rekik is as good as Nastasic yet, but they may see a big picture and the homegrown + club-trained thing is likely to play a part in that decision. If Rekik is pushed into the 4th defender role, it'll probably our first success story from the youth setup since Boyata's breakout (which sadly went wrong all too quickly...) because despite so much promise in our academy (Lopes, etc.), none have become *definite* first-team squad members yet.

Doesn't he have had to have been at the club for the last 2 consecutive years?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Zuculini could remain as a free selection (U21 eligibility for one more year) but the club look to be sending him on loan to La Liga. Deportivo want him but Valencia have made moves, the problem begin that unlike the former they can't guarantee weekly games as they have a good midfield. With this being his first year outside of Argentina, it will be important he plays a lot, otherwise he could definitely be considered for the 4th central midfield role already.

As for Rekik, it's interesting that City apparently have enough faith in him that they're willing to cash in on Nastasic and promote Rekik to fill his role. I don't think Rekik is as good as Nastasic yet, but they may see a big picture and the homegrown + club-trained thing is likely to play a part in that decision. If Rekik is pushed into the 4th defender role, it'll probably our first success story from the youth setup since Boyata's breakout (which sadly went wrong all too quickly...) because despite so much promise in our academy (Lopes, etc.), none have become *definite* first-team squad members yet.

Doesn't he have had to have been at the club for the last 2 consecutive years?

I think the rules for Premier League are less strict than Champions League, & just state 'under 21' unless there is some small print I haven't seen.

 

[mad zab]

Not on the basis of that game it isn't. He was all over the shop. Let's see how he does in the others.

I can't believe there is a City fan hoping a young player fails so he can be proved right.

Well your going to be proved wrong and Rekik is going to succeed.

He has grown substantially and you can see his ability on the ball.

In case you weren't aware friendlies are there to get players up to match fitness and gett he team to gel before the big kick off.

They are not serious games!

Excuse me? If you disagree with me then fine, give me some examples of things he did DEFENSIVELY that make you think he should be included in the first team setup, which is what I was referring to.

Otherwise, if you can't discuss football without accusing a lifelong City fan who has been watching kids football since the 60s of WANTING a player to fail, just fuck off & ignore my posts, you utter wanker.

I would LOVE Rekik to make it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to watch him do stuff I fucking KNOW is wrong & sit there like a fucking dummy just because c**ts like you want to censor it. Up yours.

Lol I can see you want to talk football........that is why you call people wankers and cunts (why the stars) who just tell the truth about you. That is the fact that when anyone mentions Rekik you can't wait to post how shit he is.

I haven't seen enough of the lad to give an informed opinion.....I don't get along to watch the academy like I did when Lakey et al where coming through. However I will take the opinion of people like Van Gaal and Cocu over you.

He did nothing wrong in the pre-season games and he has grown more physically since he has been on loan.

Also, how many games have you seen him play since he went to Eindhoven?

You are completely negative where he is concerned.

Oh! I see the stars appear in **** automatically

 

[Neville Kneville]

I can't believe there is a City fan hoping a young player fails so he can be proved right.

Well your going to be proved wrong and Rekik is going to succeed.

He has grown substantially and you can see his ability on the ball.

In case you weren't aware friendlies are there to get players up to match fitness and gett he team to gel before the big kick off.

They are not serious games!

Excuse me? If you disagree with me then fine, give me some examples of things he did DEFENSIVELY that make you think he should be included in the first team setup, which is what I was referring to.

Otherwise, if you can't discuss football without accusing a lifelong City fan who has been watching kids football since the 60s of WANTING a player to fail, just fuck off & ignore my posts, you utter wanker.

I would LOVE Rekik to make it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to watch him do stuff I fucking KNOW is wrong & sit there like a fucking dummy just because c**ts like you want to censor it. Up yours.

Lol I can see you want to talk football........that is why you call people wankers and c**ts (why the stars) who just tell the truth about you. That is the fact that when anyone mentions Rekik you can't wait to post how shit he is.

I haven't seen enough of the lad to give an informed opinion.....I don't get along to watch the academy like I did when Lakey et al where coming through. However I will take the opinion of people like Van Gaal and Cocu over you.

He did nothing wrong in the pre-season games and he has grown more physically since he has been on loan.

Also, how many games have you seen him play since he went to Eindhoven?

You are completely negative where he is concerned.

Oh! I see the stars appear in c**t automatically

So let's get this straight once & for all.

I have seen Rekik play on numerous occasions for the EDS. When we first signed him, I thought he would be special. As time went on, I watched him get destroyed on several occasions by what I considered to be average reserve team players (none of whom I can now remember ever seeing play at a higher level but it's possible Keane at the rags was one.) I noticed an alarming lack of pace which led to conceding pens etc.

During all of this time, he looked fine when in control of the ball & a decent passer.

I thought he did ok at fullback for our first team & he got good reviews playing there on loan at (Plymouth ?). He then went to Blackburn, & mates of mine who watch them said he was dogshit & piss slow. Hegot dropped. He then played for our first team post season & was even worse than dogshit & even slower than piss slow, if fact as bad or worse than Stephen Jordan. Absolutely fucking terrible costing us several goals.

He then went to PSV where he got rave reviews pre season. I watched him v AC Milan & he was letting Balotelli turn without a challenge, standing in the wrong place, & at times being so far away from Mario as to be almost playing in a different position.

I came on to this forum, & he was getting rave reviews for the same performance. In the 2nd leg, he was even worse & the commentators were referring to it as a bit of a nightmare for him. Again, on here, rave reviews, future this, 'get him in the first team squad' etc.

After his first few games, PSV fans became split about him, then he had a disasterous spell when he went to pieces completely, then had a few decent games & a TRIAL for the Dutch squad. Mates of mine who work in football in Holland were split about him, some thinking he's no chance, others that he will make it, NONE that he is anywhere near good enough for our team. There are videos posted of numerous examples of awful defending by Rekik in the Dutch league. Nobody cares about any of this.

Once again on here 'get him in the squad, he can replace Lescott' etc etc, why, because these people watch him play ? No, because they look at fucking computer stats or judge the fact that he's in the Dutch reserve squad (behind Ron Vlaar etc). That means he can play for the champions of England.

Now he gets in the first team pre season & has two below average games vs poor opposition, where even people on this forum noticed, as well as the bloke in the MUEN who commented more than once how he needs to step up if he is to have a career at City.

Cue commennts on here of 'get him in the first team squad' etc.

I comment that he has done nothing so far to deserve the recognition he is getting & get accused of WANTING him to fail by someone who admits to having rarely seen him play. Few who kiss his arse regularly have seen him play. One or two seem to rate him from EDS days, which surprises me.

Now, if he actually DOES SOMETHING to merit being placed above our other competing squad members for the job of 4th cb, then I will go 'ok, now it's fair to talk about him as being ahead of others' in the meantime, when I KNOW he is letting players turn when he shouldn't, missing headers, standing in the wrong place etc, not getting involved when he should be, I'm going to fucking well comment on it, even if he does look 'comfortable' on the ball.

He is a fucking central defender, he also has to defend & our season could depend on him, we are not a kids' charity, we need performance.

So far imo, Boyaya, Nastasic, Javi Garcia & Denayer are all looking a better bet for the 4th cb job than Rekik. If he does some great DEFENDING, not passing the ball around or flicking it back to the keeper, DEFENDING at a good level without getting turned over, or leaving his man free, then I will be happy to see him progress further at our club, in fact I will be delighted, because I had very very high hopes for him a few years ago. If not, & people continue to praise him above what I consider to be fair, I will continue to disagree with them.

He needs to step up quickly, or he should be back out on loan, then we give him another look next year & make a decision then.

I hope this finally clears it up for various people who don't enjoy free speech or discussion re Rekik.

 

[Centurions]

Zuculini could remain as a free selection (U21 eligibility for one more year) but the club look to be sending him on loan to La Liga. Deportivo want him but Valencia have made moves, the problem begin that unlike the former they can't guarantee weekly games as they have a good midfield. With this being his first year outside of Argentina, it will be important he plays a lot, otherwise he could definitely be considered for the 4th central midfield role already.

As for Rekik, it's interesting that City apparently have enough faith in him that they're willing to cash in on Nastasic and promote Rekik to fill his role. I don't think Rekik is as good as Nastasic yet, but they may see a big picture and the homegrown + club-trained thing is likely to play a part in that decision. If Rekik is pushed into the 4th defender role, it'll probably our first success story from the youth setup since Boyata's breakout (which sadly went wrong all too quickly...) because despite so much promise in our academy (Lopes, etc.), none have become *definite* first-team squad members yet.

Doesn't he have had to have been at the club for the last 2 consecutive years?

I think the rules for Premier League are less strict than Champions League, & just state 'under 21' unless there is some small print I haven't seen.

Ahh, yes I got them mixed up.

 

[twosips]

Kneville - with that kinda rant you've gotta be Ted from mcfc.net right?

 

[mad zab]

Excuse me? If you disagree with me then fine, give me some examples of things he did DEFENSIVELY that make you think he should be included in the first team setup, which is what I was referring to.

Otherwise, if you can't discuss football without accusing a lifelong City fan who has been watching kids football since the 60s of WANTING a player to fail, just fuck off & ignore my posts, you utter wanker.

I would LOVE Rekik to make it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to watch him do stuff I fucking KNOW is wrong & sit there like a fucking dummy just because c**ts like you want to censor it. Up yours.

Lol I can see you want to talk football........that is why you call people wankers and c**ts (why the stars) who just tell the truth about you. That is the fact that when anyone mentions Rekik you can't wait to post how shit he is.

I haven't seen enough of the lad to give an informed opinion.....I don't get along to watch the academy like I did when Lakey et al where coming through. However I will take the opinion of people like Van Gaal and Cocu over you.

He did nothing wrong in the pre-season games and he has grown more physically since he has been on loan.

Also, how many games have you seen him play since he went to Eindhoven?

You are completely negative where he is concerned.

Oh! I see the stars appear in c**t automatically

So let's get this straight once & for all.

I have seen Rekik play on numerous occasions for the EDS. When we first signed him, I thought he would be special. As time went on, I watched him get destroyed on several occasions by what I considered to be average reserve team players (none of whom I can now remember ever seeing play at a higher level but it's possible Keane at the rags was one.) I noticed an alarming lack of pace which led to conceding pens etc.

During all of this time, he looked fine when in control of the ball & a decent passer.

I thought he did ok at fullback for our first team & he got good reviews playing there on loan at (Plymouth ?). He then went to Blackburn, & mates of mine who watch them said he was dogshit & piss slow. Hegot dropped. He then played for our first team post season & was even worse than dogshit & even slower than piss slow, if fact as bad or worse than Stephen Jordan. Absolutely fucking terrible costing us several goals.

He then went to PSV where he got rave reviews pre season. I watched him v AC Milan & he was letting Balotelli turn without a challenge, standing in the wrong place, & at times being so far away from Mario as to be almost playing in a different position.

I came on to this forum, & he was getting rave reviews for the same performance. In the 2nd leg, he was even worse & the commentators were referring to it as a bit of a nightmare for him. Again, on here, rave reviews, future this, 'get him in the first team squad' etc.

After his first few games, PSV fans became split about him, then he had a disasterous spell when he went to pieces completely, then had a few decent games & a TRIAL for the Dutch squad. Mates of mine who work in football in Holland were split about him, some thinking he's no chance, others that he will make it, NONE that he is anywhere near good enough for our team. There are videos posted of numerous examples of awful defending by Rekik in the Dutch league. Nobody cares about any of this.

Once again on here 'get him in the squad, he can replace Lescott' etc etc, why, because these people watch him play ? No, because they look at fucking computer stats or judge the fact that he's in the Dutch reserve squad (behind Ron Vlaar etc). That means he can play for the champions of England.

Now he gets in the first team pre season & has two below average games vs poor opposition, where even people on this forum noticed, as well as the bloke in the MUEN who commented more than once how he needs to step up if he is to have a career at City.

Cue commennts on here of 'get him in the first team squad' etc.

I comment that he has done nothing so far to deserve the recognition he is getting & get accused of WANTING him to fail by someone who admits to having rarely seen him play. Few who kiss his arse regularly have seen him play. One or two seem to rate him from EDS days, which surprises me.

Now, if he actually DOES SOMETHING to merit being placed above our other competing squad members for the job of 4th cb, then I will go 'ok, now it's fair to talk about him as being ahead of others' in the meantime, when I KNOW he is letting players turn when he shouldn't, missing headers, standing in the wrong place etc, not getting involved when he should be, I'm going to fucking well comment on it, even if he does look 'comfortable' on the ball.

He is a fucking central defender, he also has to defend & our season could depend on him, we are not a kids' charity, we need performance.

So far imo, Boyaya, Nastasic, Javi Garcia & Denayer are all looking a better bet for the 4th cb job than Rekik. If he does some great DEFENDING, not passing the ball around or flicking it back to the keeper, DEFENDING at a good level without getting turned over, or leaving his man free, then I will be happy to see him progress further at our club, in fact I will be delighted, because I had very very high hopes for him a few years ago. If not, & people continue to praise him above what I consider to be fair, I will continue to disagree with them.

He needs to step up quickly, or he should be back out on loan, then we give him another look next year & make a decision then.

I hope this finally clears it up for various people who don't enjoy free speech or discussion re Rekik.

Lol the bolded part about Jordan should tell people what shit your post is. Just one long fucking ramble.

He was that bad that the club want hom back there. So I will take their view instead of your friends.

 

[mad zab]

Kneville - with that kinda rant you've gotta be Ted from mcfc.net right?

lol Ted Knott....you may not be far wrong there

 

[FantasyIreland]

Nev,your obsessive,unfair,dislike of this kid isn't healthy.

While he may not be the next Maldini.......everyone else cant be wrong pal.

Your above rant is a nonsense.

 

[twosips]

Nev,your obsessive,unfair,dislike of this kid isn't healthy.

While he may not be the next Maldini.......everyone else cant be wrong pal.

Your above rant is a nonsense.

I don't think he's unnecessarily being unfair. I'm with him on this.. I think Rekik is a bit of a pansy of a defender tbh. He's one of those 'looks good on the ball' types who you rarely see make a great challenge or lead by example.

 

[twosips]

Kneville - with that kinda rant you've gotta be Ted from mcfc.net right?

lol Ted Knott....you may not be far wrong there

Don't know who Ted Knott is. Referring to the poster called Ted Hughes. Unless it's one and the same?

 

[BigOscar]

To be honest, football is so subjective, you will see whatever you want to see. Nev clearly decided a long time ago that he didn't rate Rekik, so now is looking with critical eyes and will always see him negatively. I think he's very much in the minority with his opinion of him, especially with the suggestion that Boyata looks better than him, which I think most would consider absurd. He's never going to change his mind, that's become pretty clear, so there is little point in debating it with him.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Nev,your obsessive,unfair,dislike of this kid isn't healthy.

While he may not be the next Maldini.......everyone else cant be wrong pal.

Your above rant is a nonsense.

I don't think he's unnecessarily being unfair. I'm with him on this.. I think Rekik is a bit of a pansy of a defender tbh. He's one of those 'looks good on the ball' types who you rarely see make a great challenge or lead by example.

Of course he is being unfair,his assessment of Rekiks game against Mario is bollocks for a start.

Oscar is right....