Karim Rekik

[FantasyIreland]

I agree about Bruma, but v Milan he was miles better than Rekik, who had a nightmare

If by nightmare you mean giving our ex prima donna hardly a sniff.....then i'm in full agreement.

 

[El Mago]

Not ready yet, maybe he need a loan in a Premier League club before coming back to City.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I agree about Bruma, but v Milan he was miles better than Rekik, who had a nightmare

If by nightmare you mean giving our ex prima donna hardly a sniff.....then i'm in full agreement.

This is absolutely not true.

I really don't see how you can watch those games & come to that viewpoint. I can't believe you really took much of an interest in the games & have only given it a casual look.

In all the games I saw Balotelli play, the thing I disliked most about him was how he would fall down from the slightest challenge & hope for a free kick, rather than playing on. Most of the time v Rekik, he was able to stand his ground, take the ball on his chest, bring it down & pass it, the kid didn't get near him.

On other occasions, Rekik would be right with Balotelli, then Mario would just move his shoulders, turn on the speed & suddenly be 15 yards away from Rekik able to recieve the ball in totally empty space & pick out a pass to anyone he wanted. Rekik became so frustrated that, in the end, he just put his studs right in Balotelli's back because he couldn't get even a touch of the ball off him.

Forgetting the general play, here are the goals.

Would you say Rekik's (No3) closing down of Boateng's shot was good ? Imo it's not very good at all, he protects himself from the ball first & just sticks a foot out. He is stood in no man's land for the corner but that may be under instructions so I will not use that.

HOWEVER: For anybody who wants to see an example of what i consider to be a typical piece of Rekik defending that night, go to 1:56 on this video. That is Rekik.

After Balotelli makes a tit out of him, look where Rekik runs to & look at the speed at which he runs.. Does he cover anything when he gets there ? Does he see the danger if the ball comes out off the keeper ? Does he even look for balotelli, who was with him, in case of a rebound or the bloke on the edge of the box ? No. he jogs towards the other five defendrs who are looking after one man & joins them, looking at the ball.

If anyone tells me that is evidence of a player who can play in the Premier League for City they are either clueless or telling lies. THAT was happening all night & has done on many occasions to Rekik, including in reserve teams for City v half decent sides & in the post season friendlies & in some of the videos posted for PSV on this forum, he is miles off it. He has a long long way to go, to make the standard we require.

I hope he does, I am all for academy players making it into our team, but the idea of him replacing players such as Lescott next season is a joke.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cHqRI4LxGw[/youtube]

Never gave Mario a sniff? Really ?

 

[Damocles]

I think you have to give a bit of a leeway to young players for that type of thing in huge games.

The whole point is that they aren't the finished product and will make mistakes here and there, it's why we send them out on loan in the first place.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think you have to give a bit of a leeway to young players for that type of thing in huge games.

The whole point is that they aren't the finished product and will make mistakes here and there, it's why we send them out on loan in the first place.

That's fair enough, but the post I was replying to pretty much said he had Balotelli in his pocket.

This kind of nonsense keeps cropping up regarding Rekik, people asking how good he is & various characters come on to explain that he's better than Lescott & how we needn't worry because he & Nastasic will be our saviours next season.

Imagine him next to Nastasic on Monday night ?!!

He is a kid, who is decent on the ball, not so good in the air, not very quick at all & not great positionally. Personally, I think his only chance at City is possibly as a defensive mid, but I think the competition there will be too strong.

Either way, I'd be delighted if he becomes a great player for City, but right now he is nowhere near that & I wish people would just stop bullshitting to other blues about him.

I think we have much better prospects than Rekik .

 

[Damocles]

I think after he was made Captain and their manager said some extremely promising things about him, the idea of him overtook the reality.

Lescott, a left footed centre back whose contract is up at the end of the season is replaced by the left footed centre back who is homegrown and has been impressing for PSV. Narrative writes itself.

I'm actually a bit more interested on how far away Denayer is. I know he's extremely young and behind Boyata but with Dedryck's contract up at the end of the season, I'm wondering who is going to slot into a "3-5 lesser games a season" slot.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think after he was made Captain and their manager said some extremely promising things about him, the idea of him overtook the reality.

Lescott, a left footed centre back whose contract is up at the end of the season is replaced by the left footed centre back who is homegrown and has been impressing for PSV. Narrative writes itself.

I'm actually a bit more interested on how far away Denayer is. I know he's extremely young and behind Boyata but with Dedryck's contract up at the end of the season, I'm wondering who is going to slot into a "3-5 lesser games a season" slot.

Denayer looks a real prospect.

Don't know if he'll end up as a centre back but I'll be surprised if he's not playing in our first team squad in the next year or two.

Seems ok defensively rather than brilliant at this stage but is great on the ball & quick & has a touch of class about him. Kind of player who can possibly play a few positions.

 

[kp789]

I think after he was made Captain and their manager said some extremely promising things about him, the idea of him overtook the reality.

Lescott, a left footed centre back whose contract is up at the end of the season is replaced by the left footed centre back who is homegrown and has been impressing for PSV. Narrative writes itself.

I'm actually a bit more interested on how far away Denayer is. I know he's extremely young and behind Boyata but with Dedryck's contract up at the end of the season, I'm wondering who is going to slot into a "3-5 lesser games a season" slot.

The games I have seen him play he has done very well. Worth a shout.

 

[BigOscar]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

 

[FantasyIreland]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

Not one of the goals against Milan were Rekiks fault,maybe he could have got luckier with the Boateng effort and then we would be hailing a super block.... against Mario he defended well and more than held his own for the vast majority of the game,i had no real complaints with his performance,especially given his age,experience and the occasion.

I think Nev has already made his mind up(very early.....)

 

[spinzer]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

Not one of the goals against Milan were Rekiks fault,maybe he could have got luckier with the Boateng effort and then we would be hailing a super block.... against Mario he defended well and more than held his own for the vast majority of the game,i had no real complaints with his performance,especially given his age,experience and the occasion.

I think Nev has already made his mind up(very early.....)

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[The Fat el Hombre]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

To be fair though he's at least backed up his opinion in this thread. I've not seen enough of Rekik myself to form an opinion but I've taken on board what Kneville has said here and bare it in mind when I get to see Rekik again

 

[Neville Kneville]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

Not one of the goals against Milan were Rekiks fault,maybe he could have got luckier with the Boateng effort and then we would be hailing a super block.... against Mario he defended well and more than held his own for the vast majority of the game,i had no real complaints with his performance,especially given his age,experience and the occasion.

I think Nev has already made his mind up(very early.....)

I see you are now adding 'given his age, experience & the occasion'. Rather than your original 'didn't give Balotelli a sniff'. You are telling porkies.

I don't hate Rekik, why the fuck would I hate him ? I just don't think he's very good & am fed up of reading people talking bollocks & making stuff up about him. People read it & think we have a super young player for next season. We don't.

He didn't 'hold his own' v Milan at all, he was poor. If he had 'held his own' v Balotelli. I would be delighted & would be posting stuff about him being very good in the game & a possible player for next season. I sat through two lots of 90 mins specifically to see if Rekik had made an improvement compared to the end of last season, as I am keen to see our young players coming through.

He was poor & people are not being honest about it. It's doing a disservice to City fans who want a genuine appraisal of his present status as a possible first team player.

People who say he did well or that he looks ready to play as our 4th centre back next season are not being genuine, they are painting a picture they like to see, not reporting on what happened. That's what I have a problem with, not Rekik.

It was the same kind of thing with Nastasic, people likening him to Baresi, Bobby Moore etc when he is still not even close to either a year later.

 

[spinzer]

I have to say, I've never seen a fan hate one of their own players as much as Neville hates Rekik. It's almost impressive, god knows what he'll be like if Rekik actually plays for the first team with any regularity

Not one of the goals against Milan were Rekiks fault,maybe he could have got luckier with the Boateng effort and then we would be hailing a super block.... against Mario he defended well and more than held his own for the vast majority of the game,i had no real complaints with his performance,especially given his age,experience and the occasion.

I think Nev has already made his mind up(very early.....)

I see you are now adding 'given his age, experience & the occasion'. Rather than your original 'didn't give Balotelli a sniff'. You are telling porkies.

I don't hate Rekik, why the fuck would I hate him ? I just don't think he's very good & am fed up of reading people talking bollocks & making stuff up about him. People read it & think we have a super young player for next season. We don't.

He didn't 'hold his own' v Milan at all, he was poor. If he had 'held his own' v Balotelli. I would be delighted & would be posting stuff about him being very good in the game & a possible player for next season. I sat through two lots of 90 mins specifically to see if Rekik had made an improvement compared to the end of last season, as I am keen to see our young players coming through.

He was poor & people are not being honest about it. It's doing a disservice to City fans who want a genuine appraisal of his present status as a possible first team player.

People who say he did well or that he looks ready to play as our 4th centre back next season are not being genuine, they are painting a picture they like to see, not reporting on what happened. That's what I have a problem with, not Rekik.

It was the same kind of thing with Nastasic, people likening him to Baresi, Bobby Moore etc when he is still not even close to either a year later.

Let me remind you that Nasty had the best stats for a CB last season. His tackling was immense!
Also it seems that people think that Denayer is alot younger than rekik. That is not true, they are 6 months apart, with Rekik being the older part.
It just seems to me that Rekik is a couple of steps ahead of Denayer in his development, but by that im not saying who is the greater talent, do remember that before you go mental ;)

 

[Neville Kneville]

Not one of the goals against Milan were Rekiks fault,maybe he could have got luckier with the Boateng effort and then we would be hailing a super block.... against Mario he defended well and more than held his own for the vast majority of the game,i had no real complaints with his performance,especially given his age,experience and the occasion.

I think Nev has already made his mind up(very early.....)

I see you are now adding 'given his age, experience & the occasion'. Rather than your original 'didn't give Balotelli a sniff'. You are telling porkies.

I don't hate Rekik, why the fuck would I hate him ? I just don't think he's very good & am fed up of reading people talking bollocks & making stuff up about him. People read it & think we have a super young player for next season. We don't.

He didn't 'hold his own' v Milan at all, he was poor. If he had 'held his own' v Balotelli. I would be delighted & would be posting stuff about him being very good in the game & a possible player for next season. I sat through two lots of 90 mins specifically to see if Rekik had made an improvement compared to the end of last season, as I am keen to see our young players coming through.

He was poor & people are not being honest about it. It's doing a disservice to City fans who want a genuine appraisal of his present status as a possible first team player.

People who say he did well or that he looks ready to play as our 4th centre back next season are not being genuine, they are painting a picture they like to see, not reporting on what happened. That's what I have a problem with, not Rekik.

It was the same kind of thing with Nastasic, people likening him to Baresi, Bobby Moore etc when he is still not even close to either a year later.

Let me remind you that Nasty had the best stats for a CB last season. His tackling was immense!
Also it seems that people think that Denayer is alot younger than rekik. That is not true, they are 6 months apart, with Rekik being the older part.
It just seems to me that Rekik is a couple of steps ahead of Denayer in his development, but by that im not saying who is the greater talent, do remember that before you go mental ;)

Whatever the stats say, Nastasic is not the best tackler or header of a ball available for the centre of City's defence, nor is he great on the ball. He is average at all 3 & his career so far is a huge success in the minds of a section of City fans only. That is based on 'Phil Jones/Duncan Edwards' style exaggeration.

If he one day becomes something special, then great, but he hasn't got any closer to Bobby Moore or Baresi, since we signed him. If anything, he has got further away. We are trying to sign somebody to play in place of him. Which is correct. If he reaches the required standard, he will challenge them.

Rekik has time to improve as a defender by experience & intelligence. He doesn't have time to get faster or jump higher though, he's stuck with that, he can just get smarter, & he is not just slow, he is slower than Demichelis slow. This is a serious handicap for someone hoping to play in the Premier League as a centre back.

Denayer has the advantage he is quick, a much better athlete & imo much better on the ball, although Rekik is good in that area for a defender. Denayer has to prove that he is physically up to the job of playing against Prem strikers though. But if he isn't, he will probably just change position.

People have been regularly posting utter nonsense about Rekik strolling into our squad next season & him plus Nastasic having it all covered, if we lose a couple of centre backs to injury. If that happened for any length of time, the reality of how stupid an idea it is, would become terrifyingly obvious to all those suggesting it.

Luckily, Txiki & Pellegrini clearly don't buy into that nonsense & are trying to sign another centre back.

If Rekik one day becomes good enough to be relied upon as our 4th choice cb, then that's fantastic. Right now, he is absolutely miles away from that.

 

[BigOscar]

I think your views on Rekik are bizarre tbh. You seem to have made your mind up about him long ago and now just see him in that light. That you say he is slower than Demichelis is just ridiculous, I honestly don't know where you get this from. You seem overly obsessed with players physical characteristics . I'm not going to argue with you, as it's pretty clear that your mind is made up on him, but I think you are pretty unfair on him. Personally, I don't think there is a massive conspiracy involving City, PSV and the Dutch NT to promote his reputation, all three clearly rate him as a top prospect for a reason.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think your views on Rekik are bizarre tbh. You seem to have made your mind up about him long ago and now just see him in that light. That you say he is slower than Demichelis is just ridiculous, I honestly don't know where you get this from. You seem overly obsessed with players physical characteristics . I'm not going to argue with you, as it's pretty clear that your mind is made up on him, but I think you are pretty unfair on him. Personally, I don't think there is a massive conspiracy involving City, PSV and the Dutch NT to promote his reputation, all three clearly rate him as a top prospect for a reason.

He is slow & if you can't see that you can't judge a player. It was obvious even at reserve level before he went on loan. If he can learn to cope with it, then he has a chance ONE DAY. But I'm afraid that after having had high hopes for this lad, there are big weaknesses in his game.

The reason I mention Rekik though is because people keep starting threads on him & various characters chime in talking bollocks about him. I'm putting some reality into it as I don't like bullshit. People have been pushing this lad as the answer to our problems for next season. It's effectively telling lies to other blues who haven't seen him play.

As for being obsessed with physical charecteristics, we are talking about players who want to play in the Premier League & the Champions League, they have to cope with pace & strength & workrate all the time. If they can't do that then the whole team has to be organised to cover their weaknesses rather than playing to its ability.

We are trying to play a game where most of the team goes forward & defenders will find themselves exposed at times. You really think Rekik is going to nail Daniel Sturridge on a 1v1 anytime soon ?

Denayer just might in a few years time. That's the difference & the reason I think Denayer is closer to a realistic prospect.

I rate Denayer very highly indeed, but if he plays for Birmingham v Watford or Gent v Antwerp next season & he's fucking shite, I will tell the truth about it, not butter it up.

 

[spinzer]

I think your views on Rekik are bizarre tbh. You seem to have made your mind up about him long ago and now just see him in that light. That you say he is slower than Demichelis is just ridiculous, I honestly don't know where you get this from. You seem overly obsessed with players physical characteristics . I'm not going to argue with you, as it's pretty clear that your mind is made up on him, but I think you are pretty unfair on him. Personally, I don't think there is a massive conspiracy involving City, PSV and the Dutch NT to promote his reputation, all three clearly rate him as a top prospect for a reason.

He is slow & if you can't see that you can't judge a player. It was obvious even at reserve level before he went on loan. If he can learn to cope with it, then he has a chance ONE DAY. But I'm afraid that after having had high hopes for this lad, there are big weaknesses in his game.

The reason I mention Rekik though is because people keep starting threads on him & various characters chime in talking bollocks about him. I'm putting some reality into it as I don't like bullshit. People have been pushing this lad as the answer to our problems for next season. It's effectively telling lies to other blues who haven't seen him play.

As for being obsessed with physical charecteristics, we are talking about players who want to play in the Premier League & the Champions League, they have to cope with pace & strength & workrate all the time. If they can't do that then the whole team has to be organised to cover their weaknesses rather than playing to its ability.

We are trying to play a game where most of the team goes forward & defenders will find themselves exposed at times. You really think Rekik is going to nail Daniel Sturridge on a 1v1 anytime soon ?

Denayer just might in a few years time. That's the difference & the reason I think Denayer is closer to a realistic prospect.

I rate Denayer very highly indeed, but if he plays for Birmingham v Watford or Gent v Antwerp next season & he's fucking shite, I will tell the truth about it, not butter it up.

Slower then Demichelis, lol, you are taking the piss on all of us.
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I know, fifa, but still, how can you even write something as far off as that.

 

[Damocles]

You're using FIFA ratings to determine the pace of players?

My word..

 

[spinzer]

You're using FIFA ratings to determine the pace of players?

My word..

Have you seen the two players run next to eachother? i doubt that. But what i also seriously doubt is that a 19 year old athletic guy can be slower then demichelis, who is seriously slow..