Karim Rekik

[spinzer]

What kind of a miserable turd has nothing better to do than write off young players playing for the team you are supposed to support? If you don't rate them, fair enough, but you seem like you actually want Rekik to fail just so you can sit behind your keyboard with some pathetic smug grin while you type, one-handed probably, at how you were so right about everything as you revel in someone else's misery.

Nah, was just bored.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I do think Rekik will get his opportunity pre season though & then people can judge exactly how he looks compared to the standard we need.

I expect him to be terrible, but if he looks good, I'll say so & I'll be absolutely delighted.

I doubt many will admit if he is awful though, as those who were bulling Savic up still refuse to admit he was bobbins.

Just for the record, when we first signed Rekik, I thought he was one of the best prospects I've seen.

So... Do you rate him or not?

He doesn't rate him, and it seems to please him to be loud and clear about that to make up a stir on bluemoon.

 

[Damocles]

I appreciate the alternative opinion rather than everybody saying how great everybody is.

If nothing else it forces people to be more specific about the player

 

[Neville Kneville]

Nah, was just bored.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I do think Rekik will get his opportunity pre season though & then people can judge exactly how he looks compared to the standard we need.

I expect him to be terrible, but if he looks good, I'll say so & I'll be absolutely delighted.

I doubt many will admit if he is awful though, as those who were bulling Savic up still refuse to admit he was bobbins.

Just for the record, when we first signed Rekik, I thought he was one of the best prospects I've seen.

So... Do you rate him or not?

He doesn't rate him, and it seems to please him to be loud and clear about that to make up a stir on bluemoon.

So ?

It gives you chance to feel you are joining a little gang when you comment on it, which no doubt brought you some relief & feeling of belonging & also superiority. Everyone's a winner.

Rumours linking Rekik with a move to Inter today.

Don't know if it's just bollocks but if there was a league which would suit him best in the future I would imagine that was it. Pace doesn't seem to be as important there, plus he would possibly be playing with Vidic who has learned to cope without it & is a very active defender who could teach him a few tricks, especially about heading the ball.

Suggestions it would be a permanent deal, but if City don't want to let him go, it would be a great place to send him on a long loan, rather than the Erdevise which is a pretty impossible place to judge a player. If he did well & became sought after in Italy, at least we would know he's on par with Savic etc. We can't even judge that from where he is now.

Would be a great move for him either way.

 

[Barry's left peg]

Anyone seem much of Bakkali whilst watching psv?

 

[aguero93:20]

Anyone seem much of Bakkali whilst watching psv?

Quick imaginative and tricky but sadly lacking in end product so far, could be the next Ronaldo, could be the next nani.

 

[pee dubya]

Anyone seem much of Bakkali whilst watching psv?

I watched 4 or 5 PSV games at the start of the season, he was absolutely brilliant, beating players for fun, finishing, spectacular goals. He picked up an injury and i haven't seen him since then, but looks like he's been a bit quieter throughout the season. Huge talent though.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Anyone seem much of Bakkali whilst watching psv?

I watched 4 or 5 PSV games at the start of the season, he was absolutely brilliant, beating players for fun, finishing, spectacular goals. He picked up an injury and i haven't seen him since then, but looks like he's been a bit quieter throughout the season. Huge talent though.

I try to keep up with both him & Rekik but struggle for actual footge these days. Don't know how the guys who watch Rekik so often manage to do so.

Bakkali seems to have barely played 90 mins since early season & very few mins recently. Carrying an injury perhaps ? Adam Maher seems to be fairly quiet on the whole this season too.

 

[pee dubya]

Anyone seem much of Bakkali whilst watching psv?

I watched 4 or 5 PSV games at the start of the season, he was absolutely brilliant, beating players for fun, finishing, spectacular goals. He picked up an injury and i haven't seen him since then, but looks like he's been a bit quieter throughout the season. Huge talent though.

I try to keep up with both him & Rekik but struggle for actual footge these days. Don't know how the guys who watch Rekik so often manage to do so.

Bakkali seems to have barely played 90 mins since early season & very few mins recently. Carrying an injury perhaps ? Adam Maher seems to be fairly quiet on the whole this season too.

Since he burst on the scene they've signed Park Ji Sung and now Bryan Ruiz, so i assume he's dropped down the order a bit, especially with the business end of the season coming up. He might be injured though for all i know, not that he hasn't got time on his side anyway.

It's funny out of Bakkali, Maher and Depay, i was most impressed by the first 2, but it's Depay who's had the biggest impact.

 

[BlueDejong]

http://www.ed.nl/sport/voetbal/psv/psv-spant-zich-in-voor-behoud-rekik-1.4239460

PSV is committed to maintaining Rekik

LONDON - PSV to convince Manchester City next month to Karim Rekik to park in Eindhoven for another year. Technical manager Marcel Brands then travels with the agent of Rekik to England.

Brands argues that Rekik develops well in Eindhoven. "He is now close to Orange and the certainty that he is playing here." The agent of Rekik, Jan Fisher, suggests that the future of the advocate strongly depends on the wishes of Manchester City.

"He himself also want to think about his future. It's good to hear that PSV is satisfied with him."

1913Transfer (PSV) ‏@1913Transfer 3m
ED: #PSV wil volgend seizoen door met Rekik, Park en Ritzmaier. #city #cambuur

1913Transfer (PSV) @ 3m 1913Transfer
ED: # PSV wants next season with Rekik, Park and Ritzmaier. # city # cambuur

 

[CityFan94]

I think this lad could go on and become world class.

I know that's quite a statement - but this lad is quality.

Interesting to note he's been called up into the Holland squad ahead of van Djik (a player we're linked with) - despite being 3 years younger.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think this lad could go on and become world class.

I know that's quite a statement - but this lad is quality.

Interesting to note he's been called up into the Holland squad ahead of van Djik (a player we're linked with) - despite being 3 years younger.

On what are you basing the opinion that he could become world class, as opposed to, for instance, the many many young players at various clubs who didn't reach that level ?

His EDS performances, or his current performances ?

 

[dips66]

Talksport piece on him today with video highlights of his performances, looks a tad better on the ball than MDM and seems good in the air, and with plenty of pace, so could definitely be an option.



http://talksport.com/football/next-big-thing-man-city-graduate-eye-brazil-2014-14030582209?


I will definitely be trying to catch some of the Dutch game and some PSV games online to see some more......

 

[FantasyIreland]

Made his full debut tonight,not bad eh Nev?

 

[shroom]

Watched when he came on for Holland. Looked smooth and comfy - moved the ball smartly. No probs. Confident in his recovery jump, I tried to imagine MDM pushing up on his opponent like that, even letting the stiker drift a yard or two behind in keeping the line high ... and I shuddered at the thought.

 

[Centurions]

Made his full debut tonight,not bad eh Nev?

TBF they were only playing France in Paris...


no, hold on a minute that can't be right can it?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Made his full debut tonight,not bad eh Nev?

TBF they were only playing France in Paris...


no, hold on a minute that can't be right can it?

If he looked a Premier League standard defender when playing for Holland then I'm made up, but until I see it, I don't believe one word of it, because people can look at examples of Rekik playing & post stuff like this...

Talksport piece on him today with video highlights of his performances, looks a tad better on the ball than MDM and seems good in the air, and with plenty of pace, so could definitely be an option.



http://talksport.com/football/next-big-thing-man-city-graduate-eye-brazil-2014-14030582209?


I will definitely be trying to catch some of the Dutch game and some PSV games online to see some more......

Here is that video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTlQgBaBJE#t=42[/youtube]


Can you please find me the reference point on that video so I can see how wrong I've been all the times I've wached Rekik & that he does in fact have pace ?

Because I'm fucked if I can see one ounce of any kind of pace in anything on there. Garcia can do all of that with time to spare. In fact i can't see one example of anything which isn't elementary defending, which you would expect any defender to do. Is there one occasion in that video where you would expect ANY defender playing in any league, to struggle ? Does he do ANYTHING on there that gives anyone any idea what he would do when faced with a difficult defensive situation ?

This is why I don't trust one word of stuff I hear people say about Rekik.

I've seen him left for dead by moderate pace & hopelessly beaten in the air by people who aren't especially good in the air.

If he looked fast & aerially dominant v France then that's fantastic, but I don't trust the word of any of you lot as proof of it.

Imo, he is very slow & very average in the air. He is good on the ball. If he can learn to cope with that & be a centre back in the Premier League then fine, but if he plays for us next season, you will definitely be watching a bloke who lacks pace & isn't great in the air.

Revisit these comments then.

Here is an example of someone in similar situations but moving quicker & doing much more difficult & crucial defending.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNYcuKMrovA[/youtube]

Which looks the more impressive ?

 

[FantasyIreland]

Great video,Karim looks calm and composed and his reading of the game is excellent,he closes down the opposition very well and his technical ability is right up there.It certainly doesn't show him as being weak in the air either.

Thanks Nev.

 

[aguero93:20]

Great video,Karim looks calm and composed and his reading of the game is excellent,he closes down the opposition very well and his technical ability is right up there.It certainly doesn't show him as being weak in the air either.

Thanks Nev.

I think he thinks you need to be a sprinter to play at centre-half, you don't and just the fact that a few different EDS coaches, Bobby and his coach at PSV have felt comfortable deploying him at full-back would suggest they trust his pace.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Great video,Karim looks calm and composed and his reading of the game is excellent,he closes down the opposition very well and his technical ability is right up there.It certainly doesn't show him as being weak in the air either.

Thanks Nev.

I think he thinks you need to be a sprinter to play at centre-half, you don't and just the fact that a few different EDS coaches, Bobby and his coach at PSV have felt comfortable deploying him at full-back would suggest they trust his pace.

Yes, it's not as if there is any evidence to suggest we have had a problem with our system being vulnerable to pace is it ? No no, not a problem at all. Don't know what gave me that idea.

Rekik's technical ability is indeed quite good, for a defender, but that video doesn't show anyone anything about his aerial ability or his pace. It is routine stuff & Dedriyk Boyata would not struggle to do anything Rekik does there, including on the ball .

I think he has played ok at fullback (that's 'ok' not 'brilliant, or 'the next Stuart Pearce....') & I wouldn't rule out him becoming one, as you have the line to push players out & are not the last line of defence. His best spell of football in this country, indeed his ONLY impressive spell of football in this country, was when he played at fullback, particularly on loan, where he got rave reviews at Portsmouth, playing fullback & did ok for City in that position. I also think he could possibly learn to play Garcia's role, as he is a decent footballer & would be a decent defender, for a midfield player, but will have big competition for that role . For any of this stuff, it's one thing having a career, & it's another having a career at City. Imo he is currently absolutely nowhere near the standard City should be aiming for.

When he played centre back for the EDS, he cost us goals being caught out for pace vs players from the likes of rags & Liverpool, who have so far failed to materialise as being Premier League standard. So he was left for dead by people who may not actually be any good. The EDS defence is now better, without him, than it was with him & it's not even a close thing. They are MILES better. He was an absolute mess for City when he played there in friendlies & we were a different team when he went off. He was hopelessly out of his depth playing there v Balotelli, who had the easiest game I've ever seen him play.

Now people are claiming he's the bees knees because he has held down a shirt in the Erdevise.

If he is a drastically improved player & suddenly miraculously found a yard of pace since Christmas, then I can't argue because I haven't seen him but I know for sure that the difference between what he's doing now & what we will require him to do, is as big as the difference between playing for City or Coventry City. In fact, I would be much more confident in him if he had been holding down a place at Coventry.

If he is to make it at City, then a season in the Championship or at a lower end Premier team, would be the place to go & prove it.

Not as a replacement for Joleon Lescott. Do that next year & imo we are one long term injury away from blowing the lot.

The idea of him plus Nastasic v Sturridge & Suarez scares the shit out of me, & should do you lot too.

 

[Hungarian blue]

Wow, your last post is the most exaggerated I've seen from you on that topic, Nev and that's something to say.

It's like the more you give an opinion on Rekik, the more you believe your own words. Now it's Balotelli with one of his easiest games when he was playing against Karim.

I reckon the next time you will state that Balotelli actually scored a hattrick against PSV that day.