Keir Starmer

See the cliches have started to defend the indefensible

lefties don't want to win power
she's standing down next election
Anything that embarrasses the tories is good no matter what.

The fact is Elphicke has supported:
Cutting enviromemtal laws and funding while in favour of fracking.
voted against requiring imported goods to meet domestic standards.
Increasing the state pension age
Against any measure on landlords having greater responsibility for safe properties
Against stronger fire safety regulation
Agaist water companies ensuring waterways are enviroemtally safe
voted to cap redundency paymemt
Voted to ban or limit legal aid
Voted against laws that promote equality and human rights.
Voted against measure to improve air quity and reduce pollution.
voted for caping local authority power and funding to devolved metro mayors.
Inn favour of removing the necessity of goods imported to meet beitish standards.

Add to that she also harrassed and abused those sexually assaulted by her husband, was found to break the ministerial code on 3 occassions for trying to influence judges in his trial and appeal.
Shown contempt for the P&O workers layed off and diamissive of their criticism.
Was a staunt supporter of Johnson and would defend his denegration of worjer, ethnic groups etc.

One in the eye for Sunak??? maybe to many, but it is an uncomforrable watch for many her sat on the labour benches, not just left wingers either, many centeist also have criticised the move
when either party will reject it's own moral values and accept in anyone especially those completely of the opposite political ideology, then politics suffers and it's image as a democracy
Two main partys that differ in colour of your logo only will lead to more apathy amongst voters and a sense of what's the difference.

At present our political system is stagnant

Yeah, I get all that - and the points you list do make grim reading - but aren’t these points on her voting record equally applicable to the previous weeks defector Dan Poulter?
 
Yeah, I get all that - and the points you list do make grim reading - but aren’t these points on her voting record equally applicable to the previous weeks defector Dan Poulter?
wasn't impressed by that either.

PR comes first I get that, but our politics has gone wrong when the requirement to be an accepted MP for either party is so low.

At least when unnuman, shuker soubry etc quit their parties they stayed independant as none could see themselves in the other, Elphicke has no labour or new labour centrist beliefs, it just looks false from her and starmer, and Analise dodds today claiming she represented the partys values was laughable, at least be honest about it, don't try to con the public
 
wasn't impressed by that either.

PR comes first I get that, but our politics has gone wrong when the requirement to be an accepted MP for either party is so low.

At least when unnuman, shuker soubry etc quit their parties they stayed independant as none could see themselves in the other, Elphicke has no labour or new labour centrist beliefs, it just looks false from her and starmer, and Analise dodds today claiming she represented the partys values was laughable, at least be honest about it, don't try to con the public

Fair enough. Agree on pretending she is aligned with Labour values. That’s just dumb.
 
Have you turned into a disinformation stalker?

You‘re coming across as one.

As they say, did Bob fuck you over in a previous life?

Just replying to posts directed to me in the main Keith, it's how a forum works old bean. Now if you can write another post telling everyone you are Labour just in case they missed it the first 100 times that would good.


Ps it's a warm day today Keith make sure you take plenty of water. One trick ponies can suffer greatly from dehydration;-)
 
Just replying to posts directed to me in the main Keith, it's how a forum works old bean. Now if you can write another post telling everyone you are Labour just in case they missed it the first 100 times that would good.


Ps it's a warm day today Keith make sure you take plenty of water. One trick ponies can suffer greatly from dehydration;-)
Ha ha ha, this place has made you unhinged, lol.
 
See the cliches have started to defend the indefensible

lefties don't want to win power
she's standing down next election
Anything that embarrasses the tories is good no matter what.

The fact is Elphicke has supported:
Cutting enviromemtal laws and funding while in favour of fracking.
voted against requiring imported goods to meet domestic standards.
Increasing the state pension age
Against any measure on landlords having greater responsibility for safe properties
Against stronger fire safety regulation
Agaist water companies ensuring waterways are enviroemtally safe
voted to cap redundency paymemt
Voted to ban or limit legal aid
Voted against laws that promote equality and human rights.
Voted against measure to improve air quity and reduce pollution.
voted for caping local authority power and funding to devolved metro mayors.
Inn favour of removing the necessity of goods imported to meet beitish standards.

Add to that she also harrassed and abused those sexually assaulted by her husband, was found to break the ministerial code on 3 occassions for trying to influence judges in his trial and appeal.
Shown contempt for the P&O workers layed off and diamissive of their criticism.
Was a staunt supporter of Johnson and would defend his denegration of worjer, ethnic groups etc.

One in the eye for Sunak??? maybe to many, but it is an uncomforrable watch for many her sat on the labour benches, not just left wingers either, many centeist also have criticised the move
when either party will reject it's own moral values and accept in anyone especially those completely of the opposite political ideology, then politics suffers and it's image as a democracy
Two main partys that differ in colour of your logo only will lead to more apathy amongst voters and a sense of what's the difference.

At present our political system is stagnant

Yeah but they have made Rishi look bad, even though he did anyhow and is gonna get a kicking. It doesn't bode well for the future does it?
 
See the cliches have started to defend the indefensible

lefties don't want to win power
she's standing down next election
Anything that embarrasses the tories is good no matter what.

The fact is Elphicke has supported:
Cutting enviromemtal laws and funding while in favour of fracking.
voted against requiring imported goods to meet domestic standards.
Increasing the state pension age
Against any measure on landlords having greater responsibility for safe properties
Against stronger fire safety regulation
Agaist water companies ensuring waterways are enviroemtally safe
voted to cap redundency paymemt
Voted to ban or limit legal aid
Voted against laws that promote equality and human rights.
Voted against measure to improve air quity and reduce pollution.
voted for caping local authority power and funding to devolved metro mayors.
Inn favour of removing the necessity of goods imported to meet beitish standards.

Add to that she also harrassed and abused those sexually assaulted by her husband, was found to break the ministerial code on 3 occassions for trying to influence judges in his trial and appeal.
Shown contempt for the P&O workers layed off and diamissive of their criticism.
Was a staunt supporter of Johnson and would defend his denegration of worjer, ethnic groups etc.

One in the eye for Sunak??? maybe to many, but it is an uncomforrable watch for many her sat on the labour benches, not just left wingers either, many centeist also have criticised the move
when either party will reject it's own moral values and accept in anyone especially those completely of the opposite political ideology, then politics suffers and it's image as a democracy
Two main partys that differ in colour of your logo only will lead to more apathy amongst voters and a sense of what's the difference.

At present our political system is stagnant
If Labour was true to itself, she should have been told to “Do one”.
 
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Letting right wing nut job Elphicke is making me reconsider my vote at the general election. I live in Stockport so a safe Labour seat. Probably vote Green as a harmless protest vote.
 

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