Keir Starmer

[hilts]

Probably the most disgusting thing I have read on Bluemoon but as we know it fits the agenda, he hopes that 'some Cunts starve' that means he wants people to die which is vile... I hope he does also... What's the difference.

The 40s years ago one was pure fiction that Hans Cristian would blush at.

 

[Bovril]

The 40s years ago one was pure fiction that Hans Cristian would blush at.

I cannot believe he said that and didn't get banned or at least got a warning, he actually said he wanted people to starve therefore die because they didn't vote the way he did, standards are failing badly here.

 

[urban genie]

Yes, it is stupidity, that is the entire point, which is why it's used as an antisemitic belief that this is an actual thing that Israel is training US police to kill blacks to incite a race war. This is the conspiracy theory that antisemites believe and Peake, unwittingly or unknowingly, had parroted those exact same thoughts.

These aren't just my explanations, these are the conclusions of many Jewish figures on the subject matter, trying to explain to others who are confused why what Peake said was so offensive. RLB wasn't (just) an idiot for sharing the article, she was an idiot for, when pressed to apologise and retract the tweet, refused to do so citing some bullshit reason.

Another one bites the dust!

Bit do you agree starmer is a hypocrite for not sacking Rachel Reeves?

 

[Metal Biker]

Bit do you agree starmer is a hypocrite for not sacking Rachel Reeves?

What does that have to do with the discussion about Labour MPs/members believing in antisemitic tropes?

Lets stick to the discussion we're meant to be having, yeah.

 

[urban genie]

What does that have to do with the discussion about Labour MPs/members believing in antisemitic tropes?

Lets stick to the discussion we're meant to be having, yeah.

She eulogised and spent several tweets praising a well known anti-semite and former MP who at the time agreed with hitler about the need to remove jews fron a country.

RLB was sacked for sharing something deemed antisemetic or supporting anisemetic language, so did reeves both should be gone.

I ain't defending Long bailey but want starmer not to pick and choose to suit, bin anyone who does it.

 

[Ban-jani]

I ain't defending Long bailey but want starmer not to pick and choose to suit, bin anyone who does it.

I‘ve liked your post for this part as I totally agree.

What evidence is there for Reeves? I’ve googled it and it’s only Corbyn fan sites that are publishing it.

 

[Metal Biker]

She eulogised and spent several tweets praising a well known anti-semite and former MP who agreed with hitler about the need to remove jews fron your country.

RLB was sacked for sharing something deemed antisemetic or supporting anisemetic language, so did reeves both should be gone.

Yet you're on here criticising Starmer for sacking RLB...

Reading the tweets it looks like Reeves was praising Astor for being the first "woman" in Parliament and her role in the Suffragette movement, back in February, before Starmer was leader. It's likely she didn't know, or was ignorant, NOT an excuse RLB can claim when she even admitted she wasn't praising the "whole" article, just 'sentiments' of it.

By the looks of things, hardly anyone kicked up a fuss about her praising of Astor at the time and are only mentioning it now in defence of RLB's sacking at the hands of centrist Starmer (usually followed by comments of him being a "red Tory" and "the centre left"). I'm starting to think people don't really care that Reeves praised a Nazi sympathiser and instead are using the incident as a political football... nice.

RLB shared a sentiment by someone who readily shared an antisemitic conspiracy theory that wasn't true, and then when given a chance to retract it, refused to do so and Starmer's hand was forced. Reeves appears to have praised Astor on the grounds of her being the first woman in Parliament, a suffragette, not for her views on Jews. Reeves was praising a groundbreaking moment of the first female MP from a feminism mindset, ignorant of the reality of the character of Astor (and clearly of the fact that many suffragettes later joined the British Union of Fascists). RLB shared a known antisemitic conspiracy theory and didn't acknowledge it.

I'd still say RLB deserved to go much more than Reeves, who is displaying ignorance rather than malice. If Reeves is given a chance to apologise and denounce Astor, and refuses, then she too deserves to go.

 

[Metal Biker]

I‘ve liked your post for this part as I totally agree.

What evidence is there for Reeves? I’ve googled it and it’s only Corbyn fan sites that are publishing it.

It's only being used as a defence for RLB's sacking and a way to attack Starmer and Labour's shift to the centre left.

They didn't give two shits about it in February.

 

[urban genie]

I‘ve liked your post for this part as I totally agree.

What evidence is there for Reeves? I’ve googled it and it’s only Corbyn fan sites that are publishing it.

Still up on her twitter




At the time in feb quite a few told her it was ill advised.

The reasoning why it isn't considered the same as others who have been sanctioned for praising kniwn historical antisemites was never given.

Some may say it is irrelevant, but in my opinion in such a sensitive time it is just as bad.

Anyway Arthur low and Love are on glasto on bbc 4 so if you reply I appologies as probably won't answer till morning ;-)

 

[urban genie]

Yet you're on here criticising Starmer for sacking RLB...

Reading the tweets it looks like Reeves was praising Astor for being the first "woman" in Parliament and her role in the Suffragette movement, back in February, before Starmer was leader. It's likely she didn't know, or was ignorant, NOT an excuse RLB can claim when she even admitted she wasn't praising the "whole" article, just 'sentiments' of it.

By the looks of things, hardly anyone kicked up a fuss about her praising of Astor at the time and are only mentioning it now in defence of RLB's sacking at the hands of centrist Starmer. I'm starting to think people don't really care that Reeves praised a Nazi sympathiser and instead are using the incident as a political football... nice.

RLB shared a sentiment by someone who readily shared an antisemitic conspiracy theory that wasn't true, and then when given a chance to retract it, refused to do so and Starmer's hand was forced. Reeves appears to have praised Astor on the grounds of her being the first woman in Parliament, a suffragette, not for her views on Jews. Reeves was praising a groundbreaking moment of the first female MP from a feminism mindset, ignorant, (clearly of the fact that many suffragettes later joined the British Union of Fascists). RLB shared a known antisemitic conspiracy theory.

I'd still say RLB deserved to go much more than Reeves, who is displaying ignorance rather than malice. If Reeves is given a chance to apologise and denounce Astor, and refuses, then she too deserves to go.

I said yesterday she should have g9ne and said tge same today so I am not criticising her sacking and have no issue with it.

So please don't decide my opinion.

As above Love are on and watching that is a damn sight better thing to be doing than talk on here on friday night.

Will reply in the morn if necessary have a good wvening :-)