He also said what he got on the doorsteps of Hartlepool was that the previously 53% Labour voting public were looking at the lack of funding to the area and noticing that in other areas with Tory mayors and MPs the money was being released to them.
He didn’t blame people for voting how they did, but without calling it bribery, referred to it as pork belly politics. In other words Hartlepool constituents know that the only way they’ll get anything from a Tory government is to have a Tory MP and mayor.
Yes, both of us.I see the BM Tories have climbed out from under the rocks today.
I'm sure most Labour voters are aware that this current version are unelectable.The left/ labours complete inability to realise why they are in this position is finely demonstrated by some on this forum.
You don’t listen to other people’s opinions or understand why they have them. You just dismiss them as idiots that aren’t as clever as you are.
Yes, national regulators have always been able to approve use of a vaccine in a pandemic, that’s why we were able still to sign off the Pfizer one in December.
Labour is not a hard left party. You bought the narrative it was.
The establishment want a nice safe Labour party that is centrist in outlook so it does not threaten the owners of capital.
Starmer is finished already but any new Labour leader would be fucked immediately upon taking charge.
The various bits of what Labour now comprises of are totally incompatible:
Middle class Left: hugely invested in the Palestian issue, identity politics, BLM, US politics, rubbishing UK history etc.
Hard Left: the Rascalites. Class politics, state control, union involvement etc
Traditional Labour: all but vanished.
It's hard to see how Labour evolves into an election winning force again.
This notion of "free hand handouts" needs to be challenged,I think many of Corbyns ideas just went too far, too many free hand outs, voters wwre concerned where the money was going to come from. Which is a bit ironic considering what the current government has had to spend.
The members didn't want a hard left party, they wanted a Socialist party.I actually said;
Labour will never win as a hard left party and the members won’t let them get back to the middle
No narrative mate
I didn’t say they are hard left, I said they will never win as a hard left
I don't read the Mail but for what it's worth Israel has offered the vaccine to all its citizens, including the large Arab minority. What they haven’t done is vaccinate Palestinians who don't live in Israel.You do know that Israel is the most vaccinated country in the world because it failed to include the Palestinians in the population count ....... or do you just read the Daily Mail / Express ?
Why is it nonsense? depends how you run your household, If you dont spend more than you earn then its a resonable assumption. If you think credit cards are there to run up large debts which you will deal with at some undertermined time in the future then you wont have any concern over Corbyn style politics.This notion of "free hand handouts" needs to be challenged,
Take the case of free broadband.
It was a fantastic idea, would have helped millions, close the productivity gap and more importantly help educate millions of school kids. It would have paid for itself in economic growth.
But as long as the RW think everything should have a monetary value then great idea's will fail and kids will stay under educated, the productivity gap will remain and economic growth will be elusive
The country is still living under the bizarre illusion that running the nations finances is like running a household, it is nonsense, but it is not challenged.
It doesn'tStarmer is finished already but any new Labour leader would be fucked immediately upon taking charge.
The various bits of what Labour now comprises of are totally incompatible:
Middle class Left: hugely invested in the Palestian issue, identity politics, BLM, US politics, rubbishing UK history etc.
Hard Left: the Rascalites. Class politics, state control, union involvement etc
Traditional Labour: all but vanished.
It's hard to see how Labour evolves into an election winning force again.
It's a shame the character is a poundland Arthur Daly.Starmer seems an intelligent bloke but has all the personality and charisma of a plank of wood. Completely uninspiring leader.
I can't stand him but you can't deny Johnson has at least some level of character about him which the electorate obviously love
what do you mean the nonsense about standing alone in ww2? please explain?It doesn't
It should fold or split into parties that represent each faction.
I am traditional Labour btw, i am a Socialist. There is nothing hard left about Socialism, nothing hard left about wanting what is best for the working class, nothing hard left about state interventionism, nothing hard left about union involvement.
I couldnt care less about identity politics, most Socialists don't, they care about class politics, I will rubbish UK history when that history is portrayed wrongly though. The narrative about standing alone in WW2 and other such nonsense is just nationalistic bullshit designed to appeal to flag shagging populists who long for visions of Empire. You can not change history, but you can portray it properly. It is not rubbishing history, it is teaching history correctly on not relying on myth.
True enough haha.It's a shame the character is a poundland Arthur Daly.
Its worked on you then I see.Why is it nonsense? depends how you run your household, If you dont spend more than you earn then its a resonable assumption. If you think credit cards are there to run up large debts which you will deal with at some undertermined time in the future then you wont have any concern over Corbyn style politics.