Keir Starmer

The membership is circa 400k people and mostly your typical remainer profile. Dont assume there is great appetite to go all out brexit. Below is from January this year - these are the people who will vote for the next leader:-

"Some 83% of Labour members we surveyed voted Remain in 2016 – a much higher proportion, incidentally, than the 60% of 2017 Labour voters who did the same. And it is clear, firstly, that the vast majority of those members have no regrets about doing so and, secondly, that they would do so again in another referendum – something that they want the party and its leader, Mr Corbyn, to endorse. It’s also clear that if he doesn’t, then a fair few of them would consider leaving the party.

Some 73% of current Labour voters think – in hindsight and irrespective of what they themselves voted in 2016 – that the UK was wrong to vote to leave the EU. That proportion rises to 89% among Labour members"


https://ukandeu.ac.uk/labour-members-love-corbyn-but-hate-brexit/#

Also - As i understand it Momentum's official position on brexit was remain.
As i say, that is surprising. I am not questioning it by the way, merely saying I am surprised.

The funny thing is though, I have always thought the Remain was the more logical position for Labour supporters. Workers' rights, protectionism, consumer rights etc etc etc. And that Remain only really made sense if you favoured very low tax, low regulation, reduced employment rights, more right wing economics.
 
Labour support comes from 2 camps traditional working class who are typically the victims of tory policy (but have been brainwashed into brexit support) and progressive urban elites who object to the right wing / alt right mindset. The idea that Labour have to choose one side or appeal to both is where they went wrong - they should stick with center left progressive politics and leave the BSing to Boris. Brexit will be a problem not a solutiion going forward so the idea that you pick a leader to back it is plain wrong - they need to think ahead.

He progressive urban elites and the heartland voters are completely and utterly different though, that’s the problem.
 
Really? That surprises me greatly, bearing in mind the momentum grip and Corbyn's anti-Brexit position.

Even a lot of Corbynites are pro EU, they want it changing to accommodate the left more but they are still pro EU, despite Corbyn not being.
 
Thornbury is a sneering smug fucker who detests the working classes. Her “white van man” comment a few years back sum her up to be the london bubble westminster elitist she literally is.
She’d just divide the party more.

but... as has been said, labour partt supporters are a very divided lot anywat so i dont know who the answer is
 
Thornberry has slithered her way onto Peston. Had a wee smirk when she was introduced as shadow foreign secretary with the thought of more like a fucking eclipse mate.
 
Lisa Nandy was on newsnight last night. Leader material or not she actually comes across very well (none of that aggression that you see with many of the others). Looks like she'd do well on the Apprentice.
Wes Sreeting has been on TV a fair bit over the past few days (laying, quite eloquently, into the current party leaders).
Not leadership material at the moment for me, but potentially in a few years.
Tend to agree that it might take a few years to build up again and have a new selection built from different cloth and utterly independent of the current crew.
 
Lisa Nandy was on newsnight last night. Leader material or not she actually comes across very well (none of that aggression that you see with many of the others). Looks like she'd do well on the Apprentice.
Wes Sreeting has been on TV a fair bit over the past few days (laying, quite eloquently, into the current party leaders).
Not leadership material at the moment for me, but potentially in a few years.
Tend to agree that it might take a few years to build up again and have a new selection built from different cloth and utterly independent of the current crew.
'Looks like she would do well on The Apprentice' should be a modern euphamism for 'is probably a massive twat'
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.