Keir Starmer

The minimum wage must have been a bummer too.
I am not a supporter of the minimum wage , it is a capitalist construct aimed at reducing pay of those above the minimum to the minimum. There is no incentive to pay more than the minimum. It becomes a standard wage and it creates poverty. If a job is worth £10 p/h and they only pay the £8.72 that is required by law, the Capitalists earn £1.28 p/h surplus value from a workers labour.
 
See the post on media manipulation.

Its you in a nutshell.

The Murdoch media backed Blair, why? Because Blair was no threat to Capitalist excess, he was actually comfortable with millionaires, he accepted the Thatcherite reforms and as Thatcher said herself, he was her greatest achievement.

Foot was a threat so they did him up like a kipper with the donkey jacket story.

We have a media that is heavily skewed to the right of the population and they convince you the likes of Ed is unelectable because of the Unions and Corbyn is unelectable because of bean growers and you bought it.

This is despite poll after poll proving some of the Labour manifesto was very popular, it is popular because we are not a right wing country, we are a Socially conservative country that is comfortable with the ideals of Socialism that have been introduced in the country. The nation loves the welfare state, it loves the NHS, but it has allowed through media manipulation these great institutions to be debased, run down, poorly funded. A Conservative government could not get away with saying it would privatise the NHS , so it does it by stealth with the help of its media friends who produce anti NHS stories, the country would be aghast at the dismantling of the Welfare state, but its being done on the sly with the help of media manipulation, characterised by stories of people having 24 ft wide TV sets and there being a mountain of welfare scroungers.

See, you concentrate on bean growers whilst the Tories dismantle the institutions of the state, you deride its defenders as unelectable, but when they are gone who is going to fight your corner?
How people remain oblivious to Murdoch media manipulation is a mystery. In world of Murdoch nothing Boris Johnson has done since 2019 is as worthy of reporting / criticism as Foots jacket, Kinnocks trip on the beach or Millibands bacon and egg sandwich. If it wasn't so sinister I'd actually admire the way they managed to spin Corbyn between 2017-2019 as a sort of Marxist-terrorist spy that combined all the worst aspects of Stalin and Hitler.
 
See the post on media manipulation.

Its you in a nutshell.

The Murdoch media backed Blair, why? Because Blair was no threat to Capitalist excess, he was actually comfortable with millionaires, he accepted the Thatcherite reforms and as Thatcher said herself, he was her greatest achievement.

Foot was a threat so they did him up like a kipper with the donkey jacket story.

We have a media that is heavily skewed to the right of the population and they convince you the likes of Ed is unelectable because of the Unions and Corbyn is unelectable because of bean growers and you bought it.

This is despite poll after poll proving some of the Labour manifesto was very popular, it is popular because we are not a right wing country, we are a Socially conservative country that is comfortable with the ideals of Socialism that have been introduced in the country. The nation loves the welfare state, it loves the NHS, but it has allowed through media manipulation these great institutions to be debased, run down, poorly funded. A Conservative government could not get away with saying it would privatise the NHS , so it does it by stealth with the help of its media friends who produce anti NHS stories, the country would be aghast at the dismantling of the Welfare state, but its being done on the sly with the help of media manipulation, characterised by stories of people having 24 ft wide TV sets and there being a mountain of welfare scroungers.

See, you concentrate on bean growers whilst the Tories dismantle the institutions of the state, you deride its defenders as unelectable, but when they are gone who is going to fight your corner?
I’ll deride corbyn all day long: wasn’t fit to lead, didn’t want to lead, couldn’t lead. He preferred defending far-flung issues, and was completely invisible when he needed to show real leadership. No better example than the in/out referendum. Hopeless. I want a Labour manifesto that will get them elected. Not one that has “parts of it” liked by the electorate.
 
Full employment is great for the working class, but when was the last time it was even close to being achieved.

Thanks to Brexit its heading that way now - £1k - to - £10k signing on fee for truckers !!?? Big wage increases to entice staff !! Thats good for workers - before too long supermarket A will fill in its gaps by poaching staff from supermarket B - how? Better pay thats how. As soon as its seen that power is transferring to workers who don't even need to be Unionised and the result is inflationary we will start seeing articles hailing the virtues of those hard working EU employee's we "so miss".

They are negotiating limited no visa needed tours in the EU for UK artists how long before other sectors ask - " if they can have that why can't we? We are just as in need of access to the EU ". And then those folk - most of whom will read the right newspapers and voted Brexit but are denied access to their holiday homes as they were used to will ask "what about us" and the slow road back to limited FoM will begin. Of course places like Spain may well be more amenable to that now. The tax dodgers have all left and any of them wanting to come back will have to register and pay tax so that will be job done for Spain.
 
I’ll deride corbyn all day long: wasn’t fit to lead, didn’t want to lead, couldn’t lead. He preferred defending far-flung issues, and was completely invisible when he needed to show real leadership. No better example than the in/out referendum. Hopeless. I want a Labour manifesto that will get them elected. Not one that has “parts of it” liked by the electorate.
Which far flung issues did he prefer.

Was it these

1. Increase health budget by 4.3%​

The party also wants to cut private provision in the NHS.

2. Hold a second referendum on Brexit​

Labour will renegotiate a new Brexit deal within three months, and hold a referendum on the deal or Remain within six months

3. Raise minimum wage from £8.21 to £10​

It would boost anyone over the age of 25 earning the minimum wage, known as the National Living Wage.

4. Stop state pension age rises​

Pension age would remain at 66 while retirement ages for those in arduous and stressful jobs will be reviewed.

5. Introduce a National Care Service​

Provide "community-based, person-centred" support in England, including free personal care.

6. Bring forward net-zero target​

To put the UK on track for a net-zero carbon energy system within the 2030s.

7. Nationalise key industries​

The party will nationalise the so-called big six energy firms, National Grid, the water industry, Royal Mail, railways and the broadband arm of BT.

8. Scrap Universal Credit​

Start work on a new benefits system to replace controversial benefit.

9. Abolish private schools' charitable status​

There are also plans to scrap tuition fees and bring back maintenance grants for the poorest students.

10. Free bus travel for under-25s​

Labour will also bring the railways back into public ownership.


Not one mention of Guatemalan bean growers. How strange.

Now there are parts of the above manifesto that i was at odds with, bit overall it was a better offering than what Johnson got elected on.
 
Which far flung issues did he prefer.

Was it these

1. Increase health budget by 4.3%​

The party also wants to cut private provision in the NHS.

2. Hold a second referendum on Brexit​

Labour will renegotiate a new Brexit deal within three months, and hold a referendum on the deal or Remain within six months

3. Raise minimum wage from £8.21 to £10​

It would boost anyone over the age of 25 earning the minimum wage, known as the National Living Wage.

4. Stop state pension age rises​

Pension age would remain at 66 while retirement ages for those in arduous and stressful jobs will be reviewed.

5. Introduce a National Care Service​

Provide "community-based, person-centred" support in England, including free personal care.

6. Bring forward net-zero target​

To put the UK on track for a net-zero carbon energy system within the 2030s.

7. Nationalise key industries​

The party will nationalise the so-called big six energy firms, National Grid, the water industry, Royal Mail, railways and the broadband arm of BT.

8. Scrap Universal Credit​

Start work on a new benefits system to replace controversial benefit.

9. Abolish private schools' charitable status​

There are also plans to scrap tuition fees and bring back maintenance grants for the poorest students.

10. Free bus travel for under-25s​

Labour will also bring the railways back into public ownership.


Not one mention of Guatemalan bean growers. How strange.

Now there are parts of the above manifesto that i was at odds with, bit overall it was a better offering than what Johnson got elected on.
What a bastard.
 
Full employment is great for the working class, but when was the last time it was even close to being achieved.
Depends how you define it, but certainly for several years under New Labour. "Parity between the number of unemployed people and the number of open vacancies" (Beveridge).
 
Thanks to Brexit its heading that way now - £1k - to - £10k signing on fee for truckers !!?? Big wage increases to entice staff !! Thats good for workers - before too long supermarket A will fill in its gaps by poaching staff from supermarket B - how? Better pay thats how. As soon as its seen that power is transferring to workers who don't even need to be Unionised and the result is inflationary we will start seeing articles hailing the virtues of those hard working EU employee's we "so miss".

They are negotiating limited no visa needed tours in the EU for UK artists how long before other sectors ask - " if they can have that why can't we? We are just as in need of access to the EU ". And then those folk - most of whom will read the right newspapers and voted Brexit but are denied access to their holiday homes as they were used to will ask "what about us" and the slow road back to limited FoM will begin. Of course places like Spain may well be more amenable to that now. The tax dodgers have all left and any of them wanting to come back will have to register and pay tax so that will be job done for Spain.
We are now in a giant experiment of wage plus inflation. Those who argued that immigrant labour depressed wages are probably about (with help from Covid) to be proved right - EU drivers gone missing, so all commodities with any transport cost going up, bus fares going up to counter high turnover as drivers decamp to Amazon or other driving jobs (and the government can't get bus driver tests going again for new drivers), scarcity of some food pushing up prices as so much can't be picked (and so next year's crops will not even be planted). Plus fuel now at £1.30 a litre...
 
We are now in a giant experiment of wage plus inflation. Those who argued that immigrant labour depressed wages are probably about (with help from Covid) to be proved right - EU drivers gone missing, so all commodities with any transport cost going up, bus fares going up to counter high turnover as drivers decamp to Amazon or other driving jobs (and the government can't get bus driver tests going again for new drivers), scarcity of some food pushing up prices as so much can't be picked (and so next year's crops will not even be planted). Plus fuel now at £1.30 a litre...

where can I get fuel at £1.30 a litre ? I'll come and fill up - £1.39.9p per litre here
 
We are now in a giant experiment of wage plus inflation. Those who argued that immigrant labour depressed wages are probably about (with help from Covid) to be proved right - EU drivers gone missing, so all commodities with any transport cost going up, bus fares going up to counter high turnover as drivers decamp to Amazon or other driving jobs (and the government can't get bus driver tests going again for new drivers), scarcity of some food pushing up prices as so much can't be picked (and so next year's crops will not even be planted). Plus fuel now at £1.30 a litre...

I did mention it quite a lot, shame we didn’t actually value those who did the job in the first place, companies and consumers will reap what they have sown. Workers market and a reduction in the population excellent stuff.
 

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