Keir Starmer

Chris in London said:
Wrong again.

**sigh**

www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of HERMAPHRODITE

an animal or plant having both male and female reproductive organs, structures, or tissue : an organism exhibiting hermaphroditism; something that is a combination of diverse elements… See the full definition
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yes, we are all aware that there are exceptions in the biological world but 99.999999% are either male or female and you can't change that
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
No new hip for granny, no pacemaker for grandad. No vasectomy for Uncle Kevin or double mastectomy for Auntie Carol who has breast cancer. Biology has already decided their fate.
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All true,not to mention using animal organs in surgery had a friend with pig veins in his neck. I was thinking as well of all the food we eat that has been developed by cross breeding / pollinating animals and fruit and veg, almost every aspect of biology that impacts on our lives has been tampered with.
 
maxwellblue said:
yes, we are all aware that there are exceptions in the biological world but 99.999999% are either male or female and you can't change that
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I'm guessing you also struggled with maths at school?

It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.
 
maxwellblue said:
yes, we are all aware that there are exceptions in the biological world but 99.999999% are either male or female and you can't change that
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People aren't arguing about hermaphrodites because they don't suffer from gender dysphoria, the idea that someone can change their sex through societal instruction and a surgeons knife is the very definition of madness.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
I'm guessing you also struggled with maths at school?

It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.
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Guess all you want, always been very good at Maths and I also don't struggle with reality, unlike yourself and others on here.
 
mexico1970 said:
People aren't arguing about hermaphrodites because they don't suffer from gender dysphoria, the idea that someone can change their sex through societal instruction and a surgeons knife is the very definition of madness.
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That's not true at all. Of course they suffer from dysphoria. You might want to check out a case study rather than just make shit up as usual.

A 2012 clinical review paper reported that between 8.5% and 20% of people with intersex variations experienced gender dysphoria.

In a binary world and you don't fit in it's inevitable that some intersex people don't feel like they belong.
 
maxwellblue said:
Guess all you want, always been very good at Maths and I also don't struggle with reality, unlike yourself and others on here.
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So why did you make an obvious mathematical error in that post? Or is it just because you don't know what you are talking about?
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
That's not true at all. Of course they suffer from dysphoria. You might want to check out a case study rather than just make shit up as usual.

A 2012 clinical review paper reported that between 8.5% and 20% of people with intersex variations experienced gender dysphoria.

In a binary world and you don't fit in it's inevitable that some intersex people don't feel like they belong.
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Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition, those suffering with it need help not activists weaponising them to kill western societies values. Between 8.5% and 20% who's doing the counting Mr bloody Tumble.
 
mexico1970 said:
Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition, those suffering with it need help not activists weaponising them to kill western societies values. Between 8.5% and 20% who's doing the counting Mr bloody Tumble.
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Another who struggles with statistics. I hope you didn't all go to the same school as it would have been a busy remedial classroom.

There were transgender people in the Greek and Roman empires you loon. Widely considered the most important civilizations in the history of Europe.
 
Chris in London said:
you didn’t seem to be

Did you forget this minority existed or did you just not care?
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OK, just for you, the vast majority of humans are born male or female and no amount of drugs, surgery and make up will change a person's sex. If you and Mr Kobby want to believe it will then that's fine but nothing will change my mind.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Another who struggles with statistics. I hope you didn't all go to the same school as it would have been a busy remedial classroom.

There were transgender people in the Greek and Roman empires you loon. Widely considered the most important civilizations in the history of Europe.
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You're strange at the best of times, you've slipped over the edge on this one. GENDER DYSPHORIA, there were people with gender dysphoria in ancient times.

Capeesh?
 
maxwellblue said:
OK, just for you, the vast majority of humans are born male or female and no amount of drugs, surgery and make up will change a person's sex. If you and Mr Kobby want to believe it will then that's fine but nothing will change my mind.
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Do you understand the difference between gender and sex?
 
maxwellblue said:
OK, just for you, the vast majority of humans are born male or female and no amount of drugs, surgery and make up will change a person's sex. If you and Mr Kobby want to believe it will then that's fine but nothing will change my mind.
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A minute amount of people.

statsforgender.org

It is not true that 1.7% of the population is 'born between the sexes'. The proportion of people with DSDs ('intersex' conditions) is 0.018% - Stats for Gender

Conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female, occur in 0.018% of the population1. The claim that 1.7% of the population is ‘intersex’ includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as...
statsforgender.org statsforgender.org
 
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