The Future’s Blue!
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I agree. He’s been a breath of fresh air.
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Don Karleone
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I agree. He’s been a breath of fresh air.
In what way? Not looking for an argument, but I struggle to see a reason to vote Labour right now.
Just being less bad than the alternative isn't a reason for me.
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In what way? Not looking for an argument, but I struggle to see a reason to vote Labour right now.
Just being less bad than the alternative isn't a reason for me.
Many did that in the states and voted Biden and guess what? The madness has gone. Not perfect - not solved everything but no more boasting of pussy grabbing no lying about personal taxes no courting extreme right fascist nationalists and............checks notes............. number of insurrections on the Capitol Bldg currently zero.
You can vote for an alternative or not vote or vote for the incumbent but if the incumbent gets re-elected please don't moan about anything they do as you would be one of the enablers
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If you really need to be told why voting for a dishonest criminal is a bad idea then you may find many people will refuse to engage with youIn what way? Not looking for an argument, but I struggle to see a reason to vote Labour right now.
Just being less bad than the alternative isn't a reason for me.
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Check the Mail, Express and Sun websites.I'd say he's had a relatively easy ride.
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Many did that in the states and voted Biden and guess what? The madness has gone. Not perfect - not solved everything but no more boasting of pussy grabbing no lying about personal taxes no courting extreme right fascist nationalists and............checks notes............. number of insurrections on the Capitol Bldg currently zero.
You can vote for an alternative or not vote or vote for the incumbent but if the incumbent gets re-elected please don't moan about anything they do as you would be one of the enablers
A boring period would be a welcome break but I personally could use somebody who's going to make a difference in my life. I've seen nothing to suggest that will happen under the current Labour leadership.
On your second point, I assume anybody that shat on the previous Labour leader should shut their mouths now? This smear campaign against Starmer was enabled and encouraged by a lot of the people that now dislike it.
If you really need to be told why voting for a dishonest criminal is a bad idea then you may find many people will refuse to engage with you
The Tories will never get my vote. That doesn't mean it will automatically go to the Labour party.
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Check the Mail, Express and Sun websites.
He should try having the guardian, BBC, times, and telegraph on his case as well.
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by continued pressure from the Daily Fail who know full well 2 Police investigations have said there is no case to answer - but hey the Daily Fail supported Oswald Mosely so have a proud history of being on the RIGHT side of thingsThis smear campaign against Starmer was enabled
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by continued pressure from the Daily Fail who know full well 2 Police investigations have said there is no case to answer - but hey the Daily Fail supported Oswald Mosely so have a proud history of being on the RIGHT side of things
No argument from me there. It's a bs story to deflect what's going on. The difference is he has people jumping to his defence when they went along with these bs stories when aimed at the previous leader.
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by continued pressure from the Daily Fail who know full well 2 Police investigations have said there is no case to answer - but hey the Daily Fail supported Oswald Mosely so have a proud history of being on the RIGHT side of things
2? I think only 1 actual investigation where they reviewed footage shot threw a window and concluded he hadn’t breached lockdown rules. This was before it was uncovered that Angela Rayner had also been there - although not sure what difference that makes. The police have so far declined to reopen as they say they don’t prosecute retrospectively but that’s not the same as an investigation. Whether Starmer has done wrong or not he has exposed the problem with gutter politics - if you want to play in the gutter you better make sure your shit doesn’t smell.