Keir Starmer

BlueHammer85 said:
Hardly, going off the Times and a poll as a basis for Starmer popularity is just preaching to the masses that never wanted him in the first place - only been a couple months, any PM will be hated, stop getting all giddy.
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Well he has seriously outlasted that useless tory **** Liz Truss :)
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Hardly, going off the Times and a poll as a basis for Starmer popularity is just preaching to the masses that never wanted him in the first place - only been a couple months, any PM will be hated, stop getting all giddy.
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From the New Statesman,

“ At party conference in Liverpool last week Labour activists were, at once, panicked and incredulous, all adamant that Starmer would have to step aside soon.
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Rishi Sunak’s favourability fell 11 points only 70 days into the job. Boris Johnson, Theresa May, David Cameron and Gordon Brown had fairly stable net ratings over the same period. Starmer’s, meanwhile, have tumbled 18 points.
 
Chippy_boy said:
From the New Statesman,

“ At party conference in Liverpool last week Labour activists were, at once, panicked and incredulous, all adamant that Starmer would have to step aside soon.
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Rishi Sunak’s favourability fell 11 points only 70 days into the job. Boris Johnson, Theresa May, David Cameron and Gordon Brown had fairly stable net ratings over the same period. Starmer’s, meanwhile, have tumbled 18 points.
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That’s not unsurprising at all to be fair. No point looking at ratings for a long while yet.
 
meltonblue said:
That’s not unsurprising at all to be fair. No point looking at ratings for a long while yet.
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Not surprising given the balls ups? Or not surprising considering it's a new PM? I agree if you mean the former. But normally new PMs have somewhat of a honeymoon period and such a precipitous fall from grace is very unusual - perhaps uniquely so. So in that respect it is pretty surprising!

I have to say I am somewhat conflicted about the whole thing. Clearly, I can't stand Starmer - that much is obvious. But on the other hand, what do I actually want? Just a successful government that delivers improved prosperity and public services for all of us, most especially me! Putting emotions aside then, it doesn't matter if it's a successful Tory government, or a successful Labour one. So willing Starmer to fail, falling flat on his arse, is not exactly likely to help. Especially when I consider the consequences of who would likely take over as Labour PM if he got kicked out.

Still, there's nowt I can do to affect the outcome one one way or another, so at least I can find some amusement in him cocking it up further day by day.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Not surprising given the balls ups? Or not surprising considering it's a new PM? I agree if you mean the former. But normally new PMs have somewhat of a honeymoon period and such a precipitous fall from grace is very unusual - perhaps uniquely so. So in that respect it is pretty surprising!

I have to say I am somewhat conflicted about the whole thing. Clearly, I can't stand Starmer - that much is obvious. But on the other hand, what do I actually want? Just a successful government that delivers improved prosperity and public services for all of us, most especially me! Putting emotions aside then, it doesn't matter if it's a successful Tory government, or a successful Labour one. So willing Starmer to fail, falling flat on his arse, is not exactly likely to help. Especially when I consider the consequences of who would likely take over as Labour PM if he got kicked out.

Still, there's nowt I can do to affect the outcome one one way or another, so at least I can find some amusement in him cocking it up further day by day.
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I'd take it all with a large pinch of salt at present. The Tories and RW press were blaming Starmer and labour for ruining the country within a few days of them winning the election - as if we'd just spent over a decade living in some sort of utopia!
 
mosssideblue said:
You’re obviously seeing something I’m not
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Indeed. The moment has passed now but I was just making a joke about your sentence which made no grammatical sense, "They won’t one of them either". I've no idea what that is supposed to mean.

Uncharitable of me, given I am one of the worst for typos and other wording cock ups!
 
I must say when pushong a sensible and relevant conversation on a serious subject as assisted dying, using a promise presenter long forgotten by anyone under 40 to argue your case shows the unimaginativeness of his nature.

but then he knows anything will pass so passion or conviction isn't needed, just his autocratic way
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That’s the bar now is it? That’s where we are as a nation?
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I am hoping (but not expecting) Kemi Badenoch to win the Tory leadership vote.

She's the only one who comes across to me as being able to inspire the next generation in the way Tony Blair did in 97. She would also have the best chance of getting many of the 4m Reform voters to return to the Tories. She'd also have a good crack at picking up former Labour voters concerned about mass immigration.

But sadly I don't think she will win and we'll end up with Cleverly or Jenrick. And Please God not the former, standing as he is on the "I'll carry on like when we lost before" platform.
 
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