Keir Starmer

[Shaelumstash]

The shite aimed at momentum was disgusting, they were a grass roots campainging organisation that supported Corbyn, it was not full of Marxists that is just fucking nonsense created by the likes of the Mail. Momentum tried to rally support to stop that obnoxious Blairite LFI **** Luke Akehurst getting on the NEC. Thats that they did.

All this kow-towing to the RW media pisses me right off. As for the orthodox left rehashing Marxist Leninist crap, what do you mean by orthodox and what crap do they rehash?

Was the last Labour manifesto boring or did it come up with the idea of the radical new green deal?

I know for fucking sure Starmer and his band of nobodies has not got a radical idea between them, they are trying to move Labour away from its Democratic Socialist roots to be a party like the American democrats,

Here’s a list of what the “Blairite cunts” achieved in 13 years to help make ordinary people’s lives better.

Compare that to the shit show we’ve had for the last 12 years and tell me which you’d prefer, because they are the only two legitimate choices that exist.

 

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Here’s a list of what the “Blairite cunts” achieved in 13 years to help make ordinary people’s lives better.

Yet here we are.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Yet here we are.

No, here we are...

Compare that to the shit show we’ve had for the last 12 years and tell me which you’d prefer, because they are the only two legitimate choices that exist.

 

[The perfect fumble]

No, here we are...

We swapped heaven for hell?

We were always ending up here, there's no Boris without Blair and there ain't neither of them without Thatcher.

All those superficially nice things Blair and Brown did, few have survived, good while they lasted, but most have gone. Because it was tinkering, the powers that be remained because Blair was the powers that be. What little good he did got washed away when ordinary folk got angry in their powerlessness and right wing bastards told them who to blame.

 

[Shaelumstash]

We swapped heaven for hell?

We were always ending up here, there's no Boris without Blair and there ain't neither of them without Thatcher.

All those superficially nice things Blair and Brown did, few have survived, good while they lasted, but most have gone. Because it was tinkering, the powers that be remained because Blair was the powers that be. What little good he did got washed away when ordinary folk got angry in their powerlessness and right wing bastards told them who to blame.

Record investment in education, the NHS, the shortest waiting times in history, the longest period of economic growth and low inflation in history are not "superficial nice things".

That's real people's lives. Their families lives, their health, the health of their loved ones. Better education leading to more opportunities so people can lead better lives. A stable, prosperous country.

That's not superficial. Health, eduction and the economy are the three most important things in improving a society. Whatever end of the political spectrum you sit on.

If all of those things improve at a huge rate, how on earth can you have the gaul to call it "superficial"?

What on earth do you want out of politics if it's not to improve those 3 things? Absolutely bizarre.

It's an inevitable cycle of a democracy that when a big change comes, the next big change will be the opposite. You wouldn't have Clinton without Reagan, you wouldn't have Trump without Obama, you wouldn't have Blair without Thatcher, you wouldn't have the abomination of the last 12 years without Blair.

But it doesn't mean we should stop wanting better than this.

 

[somapop]

^^ Please Christ don't break this cycle with without Boris Johnson no Truss.....(being facetious but I take your point!).

 

[Shaelumstash]

^^ Please Christ don't break this cycle with without Boris Johnson no Truss.....(being facetious but I take your point!).

Unfortunately, Truss is going to be more of the same as Boris Johnson, but with a bit more Thatcher fancy dress thrown in!

She's actually talking about making striking illegal today. We really are through the looking glass at this point.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Unfortunately, Truss is going to be more of the same as Boris Johnson, but with a bit more Thatcher fancy dress thrown in!

She's actually talking about making striking illegal today. We really are through the looking glass at this point.

That‘s not just here talking, that’s the view of over 60% of her party members.

The UK has gone mad.

 

[urban genie]

The problem with Starmer is he is a lying **** as much as the tories are and backtracks just as much on his pledges.

Even though labour need to get in to stop these right wing loons staying in charge, the country will go back to cameron levels of giving a shit about the poorest, soft conservatism or neo liberalism.


Anyone hoping of a left leaning administration and the reigning in of big business putting profits before people of renationalisation of any of pur utilities and transport will be sadened at what we will get, the **** will probably carry on selling off the ports too.

 

[urban genie]

Record investment in education, the NHS, the shortest waiting times in history, the longest period of economic growth and low inflation in history are not "superficial nice things".

That's real people's lives. Their families lives, their health, the health of their loved ones. Better education leading to more opportunities so people can lead better lives. A stable, prosperous country.

That's not superficial. Health, eduction and the economy are the three most important things in improving a society. Whatever end of the political spectrum you sit on.

If all of those things improve at a huge rate, how on earth can you have the gaul to call it "superficial"?

What on earth do you want out of politics if it's not to improve those 3 things? Absolutely bizarre.

It's an inevitable cycle of a democracy that when a big change comes, the next big change will be the opposite. You wouldn't have Clinton without Reagan, you wouldn't have Trump without Obama, you wouldn't have Blair without Thatcher, you wouldn't have the abomination of the last 12 years without Blair.

But it doesn't mean we should stop wanting better than this.

Starmer isn't blair or brown though, even though one was neo lib and the other soft left, they still moxed it up cabinet wise and had those still arsed abput labour values.

The generation that came after straight in a interns and pps were devoid of any of that working or lower middle class understanding of peoples struggles, that's why you ended up with the likes of ed balls, chuka unnuman and david milliband.

Those achievements you list cannot be denied, but it won't happen this time round under starmer, unless his actions are just a ruse to get power and once in No10 he reverts back to soft left thinking