Keir Starmer

If you were to accuse any Jewish member of the Friends of Israel, or any Jewish Brit for that matter, to "fuck off to the promised land and stop infecting our domestic politics with that shite" you would be accused of being antisemitic. Here is the relevant paragraph in the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism, that both the British government and the Labour Party have signed up to...
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
https://www.holocaustremembrance.co...ions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

Yes I know. But the request includes non Jewish zionists and excludes non-zionist jews.

I don't care if someone has irrenditialist views (Russian, Italian, Albanian whatever), but if their nationalist poison can't respect the westphalian sovereignty of their host, then they should fuck off and take it elsewhere.
 
There needs to be more flags on the conference stage, every attendee should be given a flag to wave and union jack hats should be worn at all times.

Labour may as well go full Nuremburg rally
 
While Keir might not be everyone's cup of tea, and certainly isn't mine, I think everyone should be backing him and his party.
The current government and Indeed the party they represent are malign, bordering on evil. They need to be removed. Proportional representation brought in so a Tory government never governs our country again.
That doesnt make much sense unless Labour have pledged to change our voting system and I've missed it.
 
Yes I know. But the request includes non Jewish zionists and excludes non-zionist jews.

I don't care if someone has irrenditialist views (Russian, Italian, Albanian whatever), but if their nationalist poison can't respect the westphalian sovereignty of their host, then they should fuck off and take it elsewhere.

While I agree with much of that, I take a different tack.

We don't have a written constitution in this country, we've tended to muddle through, amending common law as we go, recognising difference but accentuating commonality whenever we could, no revolutions here, no experiments with extremes and until recently it served us well.

Not so much now.

For many Jewish Brits their Jewishness is inextricably linked to Zionism, the support for a homeland for the Jewish people. This is perfectly understandable, I know Jewish folk who believe it's not possible to be Jewish and not unequivocally support a homeland, that's why we're seeing the rise of "unacceptable" Jews being thrown out of the Labour Party, Jews who recognise a competing claim to that homeland, and of course we've had the whole antisemitic smear shit that did for Corbyn.

So a dichotomy does exist for many Jewish Brits, but it rarely came to a head in the past because all parties chose for it not to, that was the British way. British bumbling along with as little fuss as possible was the envy of much of the world as they were convulsed with revolutions, strident nationalism, political violence or strait jacketed into ponderous constitutions written long ago.

But now we're in what side are you on country, no more muddle through, we have codified definitions of antisemitism now and lo and behold! Lots of lovely rational people find themselves on the wrong side of it. Really handy these codes if you're in the purge business, get one side to write em up and castigate all those who disagree.
 
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Ok I'll rephrase it. He's ruled out the possibility of it being in the next manifesto.
Which doesn't mean it won't come up and be taken up. Circumstances change when they see the make up of the next parliament. I'm sure it wasn't in Camerons manifesto last time we had a vote on it.
 

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