Keir Starmer

[blueinsa]

So if they have any intention of winning, should the 'manager' not get the 'players' to.... I don't know... work as a team???

If one looks at what has happened recently, the Labour party should be so far ahead in the polls that the Torys would be making serious plans for a leadership change, but they are not.

Keir Starmer has to take responsibility for this.

They should but they won’t.

This forum is a prime example of the split in Labour with several of the more vocal posters happy to also see the back of Starmer.

 

[threespires]

No way are they on the same team.

Abbott has been a close friend and ally of Corbyn her entire political life I imagine the mutual antipathy between her and Starmer is greater than it is with a large chunk of the Tory party.

 

[west didsblue]

Abbott has been a close friend and ally of Corbyn her entire political life I imagine the mutual antipathy between her and Starmer is greater than it is with a large chunk of the Tory party.

We see the same on the US Politics thread with supposed liberals preferring Trump to Biden because Biden isn’t progressive enough for them. The far left are as much a blight as the far right.

 

[Gray]

All these Covid investigations by the police are pissing me off, don’t they have any criminals to bring to justice.

 

[bluethrunthru]

All these Covid investigations by the police are pissing me off, don’t they have any criminals to bring to justice.

They are there to AVOID finding criminals - if they do the Govt fears the "crims" might want to squeal to the press and bubble their involvement in the whole sordid mess

 

[Mon Autre]

I was driving home from the car boot sale earlier and Diane Abbott was on the radio saying that if Keir Starmer got a fine, he should 'consider his position'. I don't understand this, aren't they on the same team?

What else is she supposed to say? The Labour line has been that Johnson and Sunak should go after getting fines. Would be hypocritical to say otherwise for Starmer.

 

[Zuriblue]

I’m reasonably confident that despite all the fevered media speculation, Starmer will not receive a Fixed Penaly Notice from the Durham dibble and will not have to resign. Why?

1. The Durham dibble have already investigated this once and concluded that there was no wrong-doing. The supposed “new evidence” that has become available to “prove” that Starmer’s meal break was not a legitimate part of a work schedule seems to be [checks notes] a copy of the actual work schedule, including the scheduled meal break.

2. The Durham dibble may only, I suspect, have agreed to re-investigate in order to appear even-handed with respect to both political parties and to get the rabid Tory attack dogs called off. I think it’s likely that they’ll conclude in short order that their original conclusion of no wrong doing was entirely correct.

3. Keir Starmer was the Director of Public Prosecutions - the top lawyer in all England. He knows about laws, and stuff. It is supremely improbable that he would be so careless as be in breach of vitally important public health legislation(unlike Johnson, who does not give a fuck). Equally, were he to have accidentally breached any rules, it is supremely unlikely that he’d tell lies about it. Again, unlike Johnson.

4. The Covid rules in place at the time of the Hartlepool by-election specifically allowed for the sort of meal break at which Starmer necked his San Miguel.

5. The Tories are a bunch of mendacious cnuts.

That is all.

 

[Zuriblue]

We see the same on the US Politics thread with supposed liberals preferring Trump to Biden because Biden isn’t progressive enough for them. The far left are as much a blight as the far right.

A number of American liberals voted for Trump out of spite because Hillary got the nod and not Bernie. In the 2020 election Facebook shut down a Russian troll farm that was trying to encourage them to do it again.

 

[bert38]

All these Covid investigations by the police are pissing me off, don’t they have any criminals to bring to justice.

Morning Sue...any chance...?

 

[bert38]

I’m reasonably confident that despite all the fevered media speculation, Starmer will not receive a Fixed Penaly Notice from the Durham dibble and will not have to resign. Why?

1. The Durham dibble have already investigated this once and concluded that there was no wrong-doing. The supposed “new evidence” that has become available to “prove” that Starmer’s meal break was not a legitimate part of a work schedule seems to be [checks notes] a copy of the actual work schedule, including the scheduled meal break.

2. The Durham dibble may only, I suspect, have agreed to re-investigate in order to appear even-handed with respect to both political parties and to get the rabid Tory attack dogs called off. I think it’s likely that they’ll conclude in short order that their original conclusion of no wrong doing was entirely correct.

3. Keir Starmer was the Director of Public Prosecutions - the top lawyer in all England. He knows about laws, and stuff. It is supremely improbable that he would be so careless as be in breach of vitally important public health legislation(unlike Johnson, who does not give a fuck). Equally, were he to have accidentally breached any rules, it is supremely unlikely that he’d tell lies about it. Again, unlike Johnson.

4. The Covid rules in place at the time of the Hartlepool by-election specifically allowed for the sort of meal break at which Starmer necked his San Miguel.

5. The Tories are a bunch of mendacious cnuts.

That is all.

My thoughts too-let's hope its sorted quickly

 

[metalblue]

I’m reasonably confident that despite all the fevered media speculation, Starmer will not receive a Fixed Penaly Notice from the Durham dibble and will not have to resign. Why?

1. The Durham dibble have already investigated this once and concluded that there was no wrong-doing. The supposed “new evidence” that has become available to “prove” that Starmer’s meal break was not a legitimate part of a work schedule seems to be [checks notes] a copy of the actual work schedule, including the scheduled meal break.

2. The Durham dibble may only, I suspect, have agreed to re-investigate in order to appear even-handed with respect to both political parties and to get the rabid Tory attack dogs called off. I think it’s likely that they’ll conclude in short order that their original conclusion of no wrong doing was entirely correct.

3. Keir Starmer was the Director of Public Prosecutions - the top lawyer in all England. He knows about laws, and stuff. It is supremely improbable that he would be so careless as be in breach of vitally important public health legislation(unlike Johnson, who does not give a fuck). Equally, were he to have accidentally breached any rules, it is supremely unlikely that he’d tell lies about it. Again, unlike Johnson.

4. The Covid rules in place at the time of the Hartlepool by-election specifically allowed for the sort of meal break at which Starmer necked his San Miguel.

5. The Tories are a bunch of mendacious cnuts.

That is all.

So Starmer wouldn’t have broken the rules but if he had it was accidental? Despite him categorically saying he hasn’t broken the rules? Have I got that right?

I was caught speeding once, doing a 35 in a 30 which my sat nav was telling me was a 40 and I didn’t recall seeing any repeater signs. So I didn’t believe I had broken the law however upon receiving the penalty notice I reviewed the law in place on that road and accepted my actions had, indeed, broken the law. What I didn’t do was categorically state I hadn’t broken the law - I accepted I may have done so accidentally and checked my actions (my speed) against the law (the speed limit) and realised I had indeed broken the law. Now why is that boring story relevant? Well I would expect Starmer to have done the same given he has declared his innocence, ie checked his actions against the law in place (the world could have happily accepted him saying I might have but it was entirely accidental, please investigate - but he hasn’t) - what he can’t do is say he’s innocent and then say it was an accident if he’s found to not be so.

 

[metalblue]

There's a huge difference in having a full on party mid 2020 to having a a buffet lunch in mid 2021. Are people stupid enough to fall fir the tory bullshit

A full on party? Are you sure? Also it was late at night so would be a bit of a stretch to call it a “buffet lunch”.

 

[metalblue]

How do we know the meeting started exactly when it is said to have done? Iss there a set of meeting minutes to confirm? This is the problem and the false equivalence - there was an agenda for the Starmer day and he says despite what that may say he did some work after the curry - an agenda is often subject to change etc. Johnson says it was 9 mins and then they had a meeting - Johnson SAYS - says, on this subject an awful lot of what Johnson has said has been proven to be untrue not to say on countless other occasions yet on this one point we are supposed to agree Johnson was telling the truth??

I presume all these questions will be answered by the police investigation as they are fundamentally important to the question at hand!

 

[bluethrunthru]

I was caught speeding once, doing a 35 in a 30 which my sat nav was telling me was a 40 and I didn’t recall seeing any repeater signs

Your satnav doesn't apply the law - the road signs advise it. There are no repeater signs in urban 30 zones - their very absence is an indicator that the 30mph limit is applicable - thats what I recall from the Highway Code

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Getting a bit pathetic now isn't it?

No surprise that that the forum Tory boys want it drag on.

Have we confirmed what type of curry it was? He may have to resign just for ordering a korma.

 

[metalblue]

Your satnav doesn't apply the law - the road signs advise it. There are no repeater signs in urban 30 zones - their very absence is an indicator that the 30mph limit is applicable - thats what I recall from the Highway Code

You’re undoubtedly correct on all of that. But I didn’t break the law with intent, however having it brought to my attention I might have done, I checked. I presume that is exactly what Starmer has done, thoroughly reviewed the events and decided he hasn’t broken any law. In which case Durham dibble will do likewise, in fact he can go one step further and say “I’d resign”… really put the pressure on Johnson - yes I’m being flippant, Johnson is like bloody tefal and wouldn't pay a blind bit of notice to Starmer saying that so there is no point - although politically it would be a good win for him.

 

[mat]

Getting a bit pathetic now isn't it?

No surprise that that the forum Tory boys want it drag on.

Have we confirmed what type of curry it was? He may have to resign just for ordering a korma.

He would have ordered a boring one as well.

I can't Starmer having a Mumbai ring sting with extra chillis.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Getting a bit pathetic now isn't it?

No surprise that that the forum Tory boys want it drag on.

Have we confirmed what type of curry it was? He may have to resign just for ordering a korma.

To be fair, anyone ever ordering a korma should be shamed in some way or another……..

 

[metalblue]

Getting a bit pathetic now isn't it?

No surprise that that the forum Tory boys want it drag on.

Have we confirmed what type of curry it was? He may have to resign just for ordering a korma.

I don’t mind a korma and chips as it goes. Been out on a lads curry night and had one before now, folk naturally taking the piss whilst sweat is literally dripping off them into their “run-to-the-loo” curries.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I don’t mind a korma and chips as it goes. Been out on a lads curry night and had one before now, folk naturally taking the piss whilst sweat is literally dripping off them into their “run-to-the-loo” curries.

Chips with your curry for a sit down meal?