Keir Starmer

Starmer is going to blow it. Don't get me wrong he will win but with a narrow majority rather than the 80 seat Johnson one. I am happy with that - the Tories are out and changes can be made and given what the Tories have done in the last couple of months if it involves an internal change to get rid of Starmers Tory Govt ( unless he starts to drift back to the left of course ) can hardly be criticised by the Tories with 3 changes of PM in what amounts to injury time
 
Why are people quoting tweets that reference that odious prick Dan Hodges, and why are those left wing tweeters commenting on what that **** has to say?
 
west didsblue said:
Why are people quoting tweets that reference that odious prick Dan Hodges, and why are those left wing tweeters commenting on what that **** has to say?
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Fuck knows. Can't imagine why people are discussing things that Starmer is on the record as saying in a thread about Keir Starmer.
 
west didsblue said:
I’d like to see the full context which you’re not going to get from Dan Hodges.
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Course not, so maybe we should pay attention to what the man himself has been saying for weeks on end. Going by your metric it's easy to dismiss the Farage endorsements aswell.
 
The problem is if more people, including party members who voted for him as leader, think his populist tendency is casting doubt on his consistency and thus his integrity.

And as two thirds of the electorate now know Brexit was a mistake, why start talking now about limiting options for a new arrangement with the EU? That sounds like poor politics. If the rural and coastal areas are already in Bregret territory, by the GE Freedom of Movement might seem a Good Thing to most voters - even in Boston and Grimsby, if native Brits are losing jobs because the produce they process is lying rotting in the ground or still swimming happily in the sea for want of people to pick or catch it.
 
west didsblue said:
Why are people quoting tweets that reference that odious prick Dan Hodges, and why are those left wing tweeters commenting on what that **** has to say?
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He keeps saying about a fresh start, bring back integrity to politics and the rest but, if he’s just another Tory lite PM there’s no actual point to him, I’m afraid. What does he actually stand for? The reason he might manage to blow it is he keeps giving people who want to vote for him, a reason not to!

Last week he said the following, in direct contradiction of something he said whilst running for the Leadership of the Labour Party.

“A Swiss deal simply wouldn’t work for Britain. We’ll have a stronger trading relationship and we’ll reduce red tape for British business – but freedom of movement is a red line for me.

“It was part of the deal of being in the EU but since we left I’ve been clear it won’t come back under my government.”

Whilst he said the following in 2020, whilst running to be LEADER of the Labour Party.

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Christ, I’ve never voted Tory and never would, I consider myself reasonably left of centre but certainly not ‘left-wing’ and I’m having trouble knowing what the bloke and the party stand for, other than not being the Tory party. Trouble is, the more he speaks, the less certain I am about even that!
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
He keeps saying about a fresh start, bring back integrity to politics and the rest but, if he’s just another Tory lite PM there’s no actual point to him, I’m afraid. What does he actually stand for? The reason he might manage to blow it is he keeps giving people who want to vote for him, a reason not to!

Last week he said the following, in direct contradiction of something he said whilst running for the Leadership of the Labour Party.

“A Swiss deal simply wouldn’t work for Britain. We’ll have a stronger trading relationship and we’ll reduce red tape for British business – but freedom of movement is a red line for me.

“It was part of the deal of being in the EU but since we left I’ve been clear it won’t come back under my government.”

Whilst he said the following in 2020, whilst running to be LEADER of the Labour Party.

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Christ, I’ve never voted Tory and never would, I consider myself reasonably left of centre but certainly not ‘left-wing’ and I’m having trouble knowing what the bloke and the party stand for, other than not being the Tory party. Trouble is, the more he speaks, the less certain I am about even that!
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I honestly think he's slightly to the right of Ken Clarke (a moderate voice in conservative politics). The reason this goes largely unnoticed is that the conservative party has lurched so far to the right that Starmer can occupy the political space previously held by Cameron/ Osbourne and seem centrist by comparison.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I honestly think he's slightly to the right of Ken Clarke (a moderate voice in conservative politics). The reason this goes largely unnoticed is that the conservative party has lurched so far to the right that Starmer can occupy the political space previously held by Cameron/ Osbourne and seem centrist by comparison.
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If that’s true then there really is no point to him.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
If that’s true then there really is no point to him.
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The point is to be not the venal cunts who are currently running the country. He is taking for granted that most educated people will vote for him in spite of policies deliberately tailored to win back traditional Labour voting socially conservative red wall voters who fell for Johnson’s slogans in 2019. Hopefully once in power his position will evolve to something more sensible and pragmatic as far as our trading relationship with the EU is concerned, and we’ll end up as de facto members of the single market without nominally being in it. The upturn in trade as a result should help to convince people that our future lies in undoing Brexit as much as possible without rejoining in the near term.
 
Love the guy. Boring twat who is has took the Tories, the nasty Tories, down within a couple years after being devastated by internal strife.

Some will say that the centre is not their bag, but what was not to like about the Blair years, you never never had it so good.

Today, it’s just shit.
 
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