Keir Starmer

The Future’s Blue! said:
I think there’s a few different groups. Corbyn/Left leaners who believe Starmer stabbed him in the back, forgetting that Corbyn and his followers had turned the party toxic.

Then there’s those who believe that they should be in the upper classes, voting for anything the Tories want them to so that they can feel a part of them.

The last seems to be those who just get things wrong, thinking they’ve got it right and then regretting their mistake.

As they say, nothing as strange as folk ;-)
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Corbyn's mob have been demonising moderates for years so they're hardly one to talk. Just look at how they speak about the likes of Blair who is still perhaps one of the best modern British PM's (wars aside). Everyone will criticise Blair on various things but he certainly got things done and it was probably our best period until recent declines.

I don't even think that Sunak believes in any of the shite that the Tories now stand for, it's just he has nowhere else to go because Starmer now largely occupies that space. They're completely stuffed.
 
I'm lost here, is Starmer the good guy or the bad guy?

Is it time to deploy?

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BobKowalski said:
Yeah okay, hun. To be honest, given your voting track record to date, I would be more alarmed if you were voting for Starmer. Your ability to give the issues careful thought and consideration and still end up on the wrong side shows remarkable consistency.

On a wider note, I hate to break it to the faithful posters on here, but the electorate’s number one issue is to give the Tories such a kicking they will be feeling it for the next decade or two.

What Starmer says or does, or frankly what anyone of any party says or does, in the next month isn’t going to move the dial. Someone has to take the fall for the last decade and the nomination is the party that largely caused a lot of it.

Life comes at you fast and all that.
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I don’t hide who or what I vote for nor why I do. Who did you vote for last time? Corybn? Now Starmer’s the best thing since sliced bread? Pig in a red rosette and all that - yeah you consider the issues in detail -“I’m voting for the red one”

Or perhaps you voted for the tories? Or maybe Lib Dem’s? Or Greens? Or didn’t bother?
 
The bottom line is this:

On 5th July we shall either have a Tory government led by Rishi Sunak - likely to be overthrown in weeks by some far-right loon - or a Labour government led by Keir Starmer.

That's the choice. All else is vanity unless you live in a constituency where the LDs, Plaid, Green or SNP have a good chance of winning. (Reform BTW won't win an egg cup.)

If I am given a choice between eating a low-quality beefburger or a dog turd, I'll go with the beefburger. Now, of course, I'd much prefer fillet steak, or lobster, or even haddock and chips, but they're not on the menu and the next nearest restaurants are in France and Ireland.

That's just how it is. I am not saying it's great or anything like that. We have to be pragmatic.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
This thread is mental. I know the politics threads tend to be a bizarre echo chamber but fuck me there’s some fruitloops here.

The guy is on the verge of bringing the Labour Party to the biggest victory in the history of modern politics and all some far left fannywipes can do is piss and moan rather than celebrate us finally getting rid of this shit shower of a government had has failed and failed and failed for the last fourteen years.
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Well done on turning it down a notch by reminding everyone that the Tory implosion and impending super majority is down to the forensic skills of Sir Keith and Sir Keith alone ;-)
 
Postman Pep said:
Well done on turning it down a notch by reminding everyone that the Tory implosion and impending super majority is down to the forensic skills of Sir Keith and Sir Keith alone ;-)
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Of course it isn't. Yet it's surely to be welcomed that there appears to be a leading opposition party that can compound that defeat?
 
Lowtower said:
Is anyone actually genuinely excited at Starmer being PM?
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Not really, but that’s what I want at this moment. A steady hand without all the bollox we’ve seen in the recent past, a Labour Party that will just go about their business behind the scenes without all the razzmatazz that we’re getting now.

It’s not Starmer I’m looking forward to, it’s what the Labour Party as a whole will bring.
 
Lowtower said:
My memory tells me that people were about Blair as there was so much hype around it at the time.
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It’s not dissimilar now, it’s just there’s no money left to do much.

17 years of the Tories and 14 years of the Tories sandwiched either side of 13 years of Labour.

I know which of the 3 periods have been the best to live in the U.K.

Hopefully July is the start of stopping the rot the Tories have once again caused.
 
Lowtower said:
My memory tells me that people were about Blair as there was so much hype around it at the time.
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Different time though, he came into power inheriting a very different situation to the one that Starmer will be getting.

Blair was perfect for Labour at that time. I don’t think he’d be doing any better than Starmer this time round though.
 
metalblue said:
I don’t hide who or what I vote for nor why I do. Who did you vote for last time? Corybn? Now Starmer’s the best thing since sliced bread? Pig in a red rosette and all that - yeah you consider the issues in detail -“I’m voting for the red one”

Or perhaps you voted for the tories? Or maybe Lib Dem’s? Or Greens? Or didn’t bother?
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He's voting for the guy who didn't speak up for dead kids, who brought Akehurst into the party and is now trying to stop foreigners coming.

All the things he would claim to be horrified about until recently.
 
BrianW said:
The bottom line is this:

On 5th July we shall either have a Tory government led by Rishi Sunak - likely to be overthrown in weeks by some far-right loon - or a Labour government led by Keir Starmer.

That's the choice. All else is vanity unless you live in a constituency where the LDs, Plaid, Green or SNP have a good chance of winning. (Reform BTW won't win an egg cup.)

If I am given a choice between eating a low-quality beefburger or a dog turd, I'll go with the beefburger. Now, of course, I'd much prefer fillet steak, or lobster, or even haddock and chips, but they're not on the menu and the next nearest restaurants are in France and Ireland.

That's just how it is. I am not saying it's great or anything like that. We have to be pragmatic.
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Almost a good analogy, fails like many before who still struggle for some reason(they don't really they are just dishonest and after years of moralising quite pathetic) to grasp the reality of their situation. So here is the reality .

I agree the Tories are the Dog Turd

I will accept Labour May be a low quality beefburger.

That's where your logic ends. You have no choice, you are getting the beefburger. The dog turd is floating away and won't be on the menu for years.

Where you are wrong is that you may and others on here have stated will actively go out and buy the crap burger.

It's gonna be delivered to you with no effort on your part. You could go out and put your name down for Lobster and you never know one day it could be on the menu or just accept it won't and stay in and open a beer and wait for the burger to arrive.

Unfortunately fucking idiots keep asking for shite burgers, a few even pick the dog turd.
 
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