Kelechi Iheanacho - 2016/17 Performances

[sir baconface]

In terms of game time for the kid,its been less than ideal,but thats not on Pep,its on his ability coupled with the fact he's behind much better players in the pecking order.How Pep has personally managed him off the pitch,i would know,as none of us do - however he certainly doesnt look unhappy on training sequences,in interview,or when Pep has his arm around him post games.

Cheers. I do have misgivings about how he is or isn't being developed and maybe expected unassailable evidence of Pep's man management skills.

However, I accept that I don't know what goes on behind the scenes and we can only go on what we see.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Haha yeah ok pal.

You're grand theory is that when we had no other striking options, Iheanacho was dropped for Nolito because he was playing brilliantly whenever given the chance.

The funny thing is I've had you ignored for months, just happened across more of your BS before I logged in and someone needed to point it out for you.

As for Sané being awful before the Arsenal game, that's hilarious from a man of apparently such superior football knowledge. He'd had meaningful, (ie more than 5 minutes) appearances in 7 games before that, and looked brilliant against Everton (H), got an assist vs. Gladbach, Had a great game against Chelsea (H) and rescued the game for us vs. Southampton.

So at worst, he had 3 poor games at a new club on his way back from an injury that stopped him from having a preseason. And that's the guy you think got too many chances.

When have I said that Kelechi was playing brilliantly? He has good games and he has bad games like every other player in the squad. The difference is when Kelechi has a bad game he is made an example of and we don't see him again for weeks.

As for Sane, if you don't think he started slowly then maybe you should contact him directly and let him know because he certainly thought it took him some time to get used to his new surroundings. Tell him he is talking BS as well while you're at it.

Your view on Pep and him not dropping players who are performing is interesting, especially when you couple it with your views on Sterling.

As for my superior footballing knowledge, I am disappointed with myself for my last response to you, I wouldn't normally get personal and stoop to that level. I can normally agree/disagree with people on here without resorting to that and for doing so I apologise.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

In terms of game time for the kid,its been less than ideal,but thats not on Pep,its on his ability coupled with the fact he's behind much better players in the pecking order.How Pep has personally managed him off the pitch,i would know,as none of us do - however he certainly doesnt look unhappy on training sequences,in interview,or when Pep has his arm around him post games.

Sure he is behind much better players now. But assuming Pep can play two up front which he has done and Aguero was suspened in some games what other much better goal scorers in the pecking order are you referring to the last five months when he has been effectively exciled ?

 

[Edwin Edwin]

Has 'stalled' since around October last year but mainly due to a lack of minutes.Bringing him on for the last three minutes and constantly leaving him out of the eighteen all together doesn't help matters.Ultimately he might not be 'good enough' for Pep going forward and he might have to move on,but many a times this season Pep has been unfair to him in giving him chances considering how we've struggled in the attacking department and how many of our attacking players haven't been consistent enough to merit their places.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Haha, at times we have played some brilliant stuff this season and at other times we have been piss poor or bang average for a whole variety of reasons. I think Pep should be credited for the plusses but i think its only fair that he can be held to account for his part in the dissapointments this season. He said so himself that he had made mistakes. This league is much harder and less forgiving than than LaLiga or the Bundesligue and our squad isnt as good Barcelona. That said i still think he could have done better in some areas, subs, style of play etc and and binning Kelechi off when chances are going begging is just one area I bet even he would have changed if he had had the last few months again. I hope and believe he will get more right next season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti Pep. I am a bit underwhelmed by what has happened so far but think there have been signs that things might be very good in the future but I also have concerns from the things we have seen this season. I just think there is an element of our support who have lost sight that there is even a possibility that things might not work out as we hope with him and some seem to think he is some kind of god. I quite like Pep but I'm a City supporter not a Pep supporter.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti Pep. I am a bit underwhelmed by what has happened so far but think there have been signs that things might be very good in the future but I also have concerns from the things we have seen this season. I just think there is an element of our support who have lost sight that there is even a possibility that things might not work out as we hope with him and some seem to think he is some kind of god. I quite like Pep but I'm a City supporter not a Pep supporter.

I have to agree, there is alot to like about Pep the way he conducts himself in the media is exemplary and we have played some great stuff especially early on in the season. But I am very much in your boat. Im a City fan first and foremost and he should not be placed on a pedestal beyond all criticism. After all this a forum for disscussion and we are not all going to agree all the time.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

I have to agree, there is alot to like about Pep the way he conducts himself in the media is exemplary and we have played some great stuff especially early on in the season. But I am very much in your boat. Im a City fan first and foremost and he should not be placed on a pedestal beyond all criticism. After all this a forum for disscussion and we are not all going to agree all the time.

I think the problem is that some on this forum believe that Pep should have been pulling up tree's in his first season and winning nearly everything, when lets be honest there was a very big re-building job on his hands which could never be done in one window. We started of great in the first 10 games but even Pep warned that this was not to be taken as a sign that everything would be rosy.

Yes he could have done things differently, but then he wouldnt be sticking to his principles and the way he approaches his job and it wasnt like he was coming into a team setup to dominate straight away, like a Bayern Munich. He needed to adjust to the league himself, he got the players in at the time who he wanted and were available to be signed, for example if we didnt sign Sane/Jesus when we did i dont think they would have been available one year later.

He focused on getting his forward line, and probably thought he had enough to work with at the back but obviously brought in Stones. The loss of Vinny was massive and no-one else stepped up and took command at the back with him out.

He will focus this summer with the defence strengthened plus midfield, so for me, i will judge him from next year.

 

[Easy]

Hopefully its a sale with buy back. For me this is the best way to deal with young players.

Kelechi is only 20. Has the killer goal scoring instinct but his all around game needs some more development. Hoffenheim would be great for him, they are currently third and will likely play Champions League next season. By buying, not loaning Hoffenheim have a much, much greater interest in the player. Kelechi would get a lot more minutes and will probably become a starter. After a season or two, if he is performing really well, we can buy him back at lets say 10m or so more than we sold him for. The best way to look at this is a development fee, he will getting game time that City can't even come close to giving him right now and will in turn be growing/maturing/progressing as a player. It is a really good investment.

 

[Sunny Coast Blue]

Kelechi over the past 2 years has shown enough that he should be entitled to some game time, far more than he has been given. When I say this, I compare him to some others in the team that have put in a number of turd performances but keep being given chances. I love Sane, but lets not kid ourselves, he put in more dire performances in the 1st 6 months he was at the club than Kelechi has in 2 seasons, yet he wasn't just cast aside. Sterling was horrendous last season and continues to please and infuriate in equal measures this year but still gets chances in the side. KDB over the past couple of months has been distinctly average in a number of games. Don't even get me started on Navas. So there we have 4 attacking players who have had a mixed bag of a season, yet all continue to get regular game time. Kelechi on the other hand gets minimal time on the pitch no matter what he does when he is on it. Coincidentally he just so happens to be the one we didn't pay any money for.

I am not saying Kelechi should be replacing any of the above on a regular basis, but I am sick of our manager bemoaning our finishing time and time again and yet never turns to the guy on the bench who scores goals for fun.

Bazinga!

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Hopefully its a sale with buy back. For me this is the best way to deal with young players.

Kelechi is only 20. Has the killer goal scoring instinct but his all around game needs some more development. Hoffenheim would be great for him, they are currently third and will likely play Champions League next season. By buying, not loaning Hoffenheim have a much, much greater interest in the player. Kelechi would get a lot more minutes and will probably become a starter. After a season or two, if he is performing really well, we can buy him back at lets say 10m or so more than we sold him for. The best way to look at this is a development fee, he will getting game time that City can't even come close to giving him right now and will in turn be growing/maturing/progressing as a player. It is a really good investment.

This makes a lot of sense. We should do this for some of the EDS / young players we have here - Garcia, Nacho, Maffeo, Angelino. No more loans, just sell them off with a buy back clause.