Kevin De Bruyne - 2016/17 performances

[Delphacito]

I havent said otherwise, I was talking about yesterday only

It's not just yesterday though, that's his game. He makes risky passes and misplaces his passes more often than Gundogan and Silva, but when he gets one right it will result in a goal.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

It's not just yesterday though, that's his game. He makes risky passes and misplaces his passes more often than Gundogan and Silva, but when he gets one right it will result in a goal.

But I was talking only about yesterday and you are making out that I am saying he is shit in some way, far from it, I am saying the exact opposite and that he is better than he produced yesterday.

 

[Delphacito]

But I was talking only about yesterday and you are making out that I am saying he is shit in some way, far from it, I am saying the exact opposite and that he is better than he produced yesterday.

No I am not saying that at all. I'm saying that you think he must have a 90% pass completion or something and if not it means he's shit. Yesterday he played a great game. Not his best but definitely a great game. Sure his crosses were woeful but like someone mentioned before, all of our chances came from his feet, and that to me constitutes a great game for him.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

No I am not saying that at all. I'm saying that you think he must have a 90% pass completion or something and if not it means he's shit. Yesterday he played a great game. Not his best but definitely a great game. Sure his crosses were woeful but like someone mentioned before, all of our chances came from his feet, and that to me constitutes a great game for him.

You are trying to bring up other matches to make a point which has no relevance to what I was saying at all, I do agree that it wasnt his best game for us yesterday, he can play a lot better.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I was questioning why else you would be saying what you're saying, seemed to me you wanted him to be bad to prove a point - whereas in reality he was not even close to being bad & it's easy to see why people were claiming he was MOTM.

In your view who out performed him yesterday? Name some attacks that weren't through him? If you can't see why what you're saying looks foolish then I doubt I'll be able to convince you otherwise.

Seemingly he can do no right in some people's eyes.

Why dont you read some of the comments I have made about him, rather than suggesting that he can do no right in my eyes, what part of he's our most influential creative player dont you understand? why do you continue to make out I am saying something I am not? The point I made, and other posters agreed but you only took exception to my comment for some reason, is that I think that much of him, that yesterday was one of his poorer performances for City, he is that good. He was as much at fault for the goal as anyone, he made a number of simple passing errors that were nothing to do with him forcing the game or trying to create they were just sloppy, there were some woeful crossing attempts and his corners were bad even by our standards. I clearly stated that the ball to Sterling was almost enough to make me forget all the errors he made, it was an absolute worldy and i'll add to that, that only a handful of players in the league could have made it.

Fernando was my MOTM yesterday he was everywhere didnt put a foot wrong, the centre backs were largely faultless all game, Yaya was the very model of consistency and controlled the tempo second half, Sterling was very good also, not fashionable or the most popular of our players. I'd rate KDB alongside Silva yesterday, both had an assist and some nice other touches but for their skill levels and ability, both could have done more.

 

[steviemc]

Why dont you read some of the comments I have made about him, rather than suggesting that he can do no right in my eyes, what part of he's our most influential creative player dont you understand? why do you continue to make out I am saying something I am not? The point I made, and other posters agreed but you only took exception to my comment for some reason, is that I think that much of him, that yesterday was one of his poorer performances for City, he is that good. He was as much at fault for the goal as anyone, he made a number of simple passing errors that were nothing to do with him forcing the game or trying to create they were just sloppy, there were some woeful crossing attempts and his corners were bad even by our standards. I clearly stated that the ball to Sterling was almost enough to make me forget all the errors he made, it was an absolute worldy and i'll add to that, that only a handful of players in the league could have made it.

Fernando was my MOTM yesterday he was everywhere didnt put a foot wrong, the centre backs were largely faultless all game, Yaya was the very model of consistency and controlled the tempo second half, Sterling was very good also, not fashionable or the most popular of our players. I'd rate KDB alongside Silva yesterday, both had an assist and some nice other touches but for their skill levels and ability, both could have done more.

I agree with the Fernando comment - let's hope he can perform like this more often. He looked every part the player we expected on Sunday.

De Bruyne can be a contentious issue as he does occassionally give the ball away, and I can totally understand how frustrating that can look. However, as other posters have implied, he sees opportunities that quick, often times before we as spectators see, therefore it's inevitable that those fine line passes are on occassion going to end up misplaced passes. That's the nature of the beast with KdB. His succesful pass rate is stunning, especially when you look at the amount of passes he attempts. Sure, never try anything and you'll be able to keep a high pass rate - but you'll very rarely set up goalscoring opportunities. His pass/assist rate is that high because he takes those chances that lead to goalscoring opportunities. There's nowt much wrong with that in my book.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Guess my subtle joke about your comment "he can do no wrong in some peoples eyes" was more subtle than I thought. I wasn't seriously saying you don't see any good in him, if you look closely you used a very similar phrase & I repeated it back to you with one word changed - apologies for overestimating your sarcasm radar; doesn't come across so obviously online.

If you read my posts you'll see my actual gripe with your posts have been your seeming disbelief that people had him as MOTM - "some on here gave him MOTM as well, however that is more because he is a total favourite who can do no wrong in some people eyes" - that is your quote that I find baffling & that I've taken issue with. It's abundantly obvious why he could've been seen as MOTM, I'd agree with you Fernando was very good, as was Sterling. You've not countered any actual points I've raised, you've just said he had some bad crosses & corners whilst disregarding he set up 90%* of our actual threatening moments in the match - like I have already said, when you're the guy doing all the creating sometimes you'll get it wrong, why you choose to focus on the unsuccessful crosses/corners over the 5-6 good chances he set up is beyond me.

You'll forever be disappointed with De Bruyne if you get upset by his misplaced passes, as I & others have already pointed out that's how he always plays & likely will for the foreseeable future at least - he's high risk high reward, if you only focus on the risk & not the reward you'll get no joy watching him or others. But I'll leave it at that, find too much negativity on here & reading things like your quote putting positive people down for no real reason makes me rant.

*Arbitary number based of the examples I've already given you, not factual.

The comment i made that has upset you, doesnt put KDB down at all does it? It puts his fanboys down, I have stated quite clearly that he is our most influential creative player, that doesnt however make him faultless. I have repeatedly acknowledged he did some good and sometimes wonderful things on Sunday, as I have said across many of my posts about the game, but that doesnt mean he didnt make basic mistakes that were nothing to do with high risk high reward, like hitting simple passes straight at the opposition or not picking up and then tracking his runner which lead to the goal. I find it frustrating that other players arent afforded the same luxuries and the get dogs abuse for their errors when the untouchable players never get picked up on theirs, as you have so aptly proven, your last post being the first time you even mention he did anything remotely wrong. Posters will jump to the defense of the untouchable players when someone merely states they can play better, not even that they were poor in anyway, let alone be anywhere near saying they are shit or bad.

You asked me which players I thought were better, I answered with 5. I also mentioned that KDB and Silva got assists and that Yaya dictated the tempo of the second half, which answered the other point you asked. I think its ironic that you say I am ignoring your points, when you have ignored anything positive I have said about KDB and just continued to raise strawman arguments that had nothing to do with what I have posted.

As for you last paragraph its almost as idiotic as you suggesting I wanted KDB to play badly to prove an imaginary point you have created. Front foot players like him are my favourite kind of players, that I get the most enjoyment out of, but dont let that stop you making up more stuff to try and fit your erroneous point. It also doesnt mean I think he played to the best of his ability on Sunday, he has played far better for us, many times before.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I agree with the Fernando comment - let's hope he can perform like this more often. He looked every part the player we expected on Sunday.

De Bruyne can be a contentious issue as he does occassionally give the ball away, and I can totally understand how frustrating that can look. However, as other posters have implied, he sees opportunities that quick, often times before we as spectators see, therefore it's inevitable that those fine line passes are on occassion going to end up misplaced passes. That's the nature of the beast with KdB. His succesful pass rate is stunning, especially when you look at the amount of passes he attempts. Sure, never try anything and you'll be able to keep a high pass rate - but you'll very rarely set up goalscoring opportunies. His pass/assist rate is that high because he takes those chances that lead to goalscoring opportunities. There's nowt much wrong with that in my book.

The thing is Steve, I didnt actually say I had a problem with how KDB plays, only that I think he can play better than he did on Sunday, like he has for us before. There was a strawman argument created to try and make out I have a downer on him, when the opposite is the truth, KDB and his ilk are my favourite kind of players, before his fanboy jumped all over my post and started making out i had said and believed things I didnt, all because I said it was like he can do no wrong in some eyes.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

The thing is Steve, I didnt actually say I had a problem with how KDB plays, only that I think he can play better than he did on Sunday, like he has for us before. There was a strawman argument created to try and make out I have a downer on him, when the opposite is the truth, KDB and his ilk are my favourite kind of players, before his fanboy jumped all over my post and started making out i had said and believed things I didnt, all because I said it was like he can do no wrong in some eyes.

I think thou does protesteth too much. KDB was great for much of the match. Your dismissing of people's views as fanboys and seeing no wrong is arrogant and you rightly got called on it.
My main observation (which I was made aware of by a German friend at the time of his transfer) is that he runs out of steam around 80 minutes. He certainly seems to run himself into the ground at times.

 

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