adrianr said:
Didsbury Dave said:
WEMBLEY76 said:
Any clues Dave to pass on,apart from stadium expansion,etc ?
I'm not trying to play 'itk' about stuff mate. I just feel the last few weeks have proven the club's ambitions beyond doubt. And I feel we have top quality personnel right through the club, to fulfill those ambitions.
A couple of years ago we felt at times like a Ferrari being driven by a teenager. I feel those days are gone.
Good analogy. There was definitely a lot of naivety, bleeding into a severe unwillingness to criticise the owner and management who had given us more than we ever thought possible in the early days of the takeover. I was definitely one of the former. I thought we'd be looking at the Chelsea blueprint of wealthy take overs and learning from their mistakes; Instead we just stormed around making new ones.
That said it was always going to be the beginning that was the toughest and we've had to come much much further than Chelsea did. If we'd had Txiki and Ferran at the club from the beginning would we be notably better off now? Would we have been able to attract better players? Build from youth any sooner? Maybe would have gotten rid of Hughes straight away but that's about it. Accelerated growth comes with accelerated growing pains.
I dont think we were naive at all. Our owners were determined not to become another Chelsea and thats why they gave Hughes time.
This week on here I have supported Hughes in his appointment as the new Manager of Stoke. Four years ago, on this Forum the only talk was of "City moving to the next level". Even with his limitations in not being able to set up a Football team to defend and get the basics right and spunking a shed load of money, Mark Hughes just about got us to the next level and we made our massive upgrade by appointing Mr Mancini at just the right time. The fact that our owners dismissed him when we had got to our first semi -final in God knows how many years is testament to that, absolutely no sentiment involved.
We have come from so far back I cant see how Txixi and Soriano could have made any difference, especially with the players we brought in at the time - the reality is that Wayne Bridge was a regular in the side that went from mid table to a game against Spurs for a Champions League place.
I dont know enough about the youth set up and development to comment but it's worrying that nobody has broken through since the investment and I am certain that we have been very naive as a Club with regards the hostility from the Media - the fiasco of the dismissal of Hughes and the look on Roberto's face the day before the Cup Final and tomorrow's disgusting article in the "Daily Mail" tells us that.
Off centre - our plans in the Community and the Club's commitment to the City of Manchester itself; and all this has been clear from day one remember, in my opinion shows that for the last five years we have made a damn fine fist of it.
Just missed a Champions League spot, 2 defeats in cup semi finals, a Champions League spot 3 years running, losing finalists in the cup final and then the "biggies"; at least 3 (possibly 4) outstanding world class players in the side, tearing that scummy banner down on 14 May 2011 when we won the FA Cup and then a year later Aguero day.
Our enemies and that can be EUFA, United or the Media are not going to let us walk all over them and will put up a fight, but as the 5th anniversary approaches - I am more than satisfied with how we have done.