Kloppy

LoveCity said:
BillyShears said:
I'm sure you've read Hunter's book about Barcelona - so you know how Txiki operates. Our dressing room currently resembles pre Guardiola Barca than post Guardiola Barca. For my money irrespective of who could be better, a guy like Txiki is going to take the view whatever happens the first and most important thing to do is get rid of the coach.

You like and rate Mancini and I respect that ... but it's my opinion that Mancini will be sacked this summer because of his corrosive effect not just in the dressing room but around the club in general.

I rate Mancini but am not against him going if someone who can guarantee us progress can replace him. If Mourinho wanted the job I'd have no worries about Mancini going. Likewise Klopp.

I just see Laudrup as a huge risk, the only thing he has over Mancini is he's a nicer guy. Mancini has won more and shown he has the steely mentality needed for a high pressure title race - something Laudrup hasn't been in.

Maybe Laudrup will turn out to be a top manager but I fear people are overrating him because he was a great footballer and because he has Swansea playing lovely football like a La Liga side. But I watch La Liga every week and see loads of nice football, but don't hear people suggesting Unai Emery for example - who has never had a win rate under 42% at any of his 5 clubs.

I mean, what makes Laudrup better than Rodgers? Rodgers had a better win % at Swansea, would we want Rodgers?

Laudrup also seems like the type of guy who would respect Txiki, Soriano and the players. More importantly I could not see Laudrup fighting for complete control like Mancini tries to.

In all honesty my respect for Mancini goes lower with every strop he throws over transfers. The way he had a pop at Marwood was out of order IMO you do that behind closed doors and not to the press.

I've said it a few times on here that we need a manager who shares the same vision and plans as our owner, CEO and DoF. They all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet to achieve the kind of success we are aiming for.

For people dismissing Laudrup, he plays good football, has an eye for a bargain, is well respected and comes across as a genuinely nice guy. That is what we need from a manager.

We need to start taking chances on people because that is where loyalty is earned, we took a chance on Micah, Joe, Vinny and Zabba (they were some of our lower buys) and we gave them the chance to play at a club what is now a major European club. It is no coincidence that they are our most loyal players who probably think they still owe the club where as players like Yay a, Aguero and Silva will move in the future and don't have the same connection with the club as the likes of Joe and Zab.

If we brought in Mourinho he would think that City owes him something, where as with a guy like Laudrup he would respect the club and chances are will be loyal.
 
city91 said:
Laudrup also seems like the type of guy who would respect Txiki, Soriano and the players. More importantly I could not see Laudrup fighting for complete control like Mancini tries to.

In all honesty my respect for Mancini goes lower with every strop he throws over transfers. The way he had a pop at Marwood was out of order IMO you do that behind closed doors and not to the press.

I've said it a few times on here that we need a manager who shares the same vision and plans as our owner, CEO and DoF. They all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet to achieve the kind of success we are aiming for.

That my friend is a very good post. Mourinho and Mancini carry many of the same characteristics which would make their employment problematic. You've got to the nub of the issue in the part of your post i've quoted above. We need a company man ... someone who will for all intents and purposes be our Wenger/Ferguson by protecting the club first and foremost and never ever playing politics in public the way Mancini has and Mourinho inevitably does.
 
BillyShears said:
city91 said:
Laudrup also seems like the type of guy who would respect Txiki, Soriano and the players. More importantly I could not see Laudrup fighting for complete control like Mancini tries to.

In all honesty my respect for Mancini goes lower with every strop he throws over transfers. The way he had a pop at Marwood was out of order IMO you do that behind closed doors and not to the press.

I've said it a few times on here that we need a manager who shares the same vision and plans as our owner, CEO and DoF. They all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet to achieve the kind of success we are aiming for.

That my friend is a very good post. Mourinho and Mancini carry many of the same characteristics which would make their employment problematic. You've got to the nub of the issue in the part of your post i've quoted above. We need a company man ... someone who will for all intents and purposes be our Wenger/Ferguson by protecting the club first and foremost and never ever playing politics in public the way Mancini has and Mourinho inevitably does.

Exactly this is the massive issue with outspoken managers like Mancini and Jose. The things is no one can complain when they're winning but when the going gets tough will their players put that extra effort for them.

Also Bobby and Jose don't help themselves with their outbursts in the slightest. Like Mancini saying "Tevez is finished" or "Mario won't play again" and backtracking, that won't make him popular with the squad.
 
BillyShears said:
city91 said:
Laudrup also seems like the type of guy who would respect Txiki, Soriano and the players. More importantly I could not see Laudrup fighting for complete control like Mancini tries to.

In all honesty my respect for Mancini goes lower with every strop he throws over transfers. The way he had a pop at Marwood was out of order IMO you do that behind closed doors and not to the press.

I've said it a few times on here that we need a manager who shares the same vision and plans as our owner, CEO and DoF. They all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet to achieve the kind of success we are aiming for.

That my friend is a very good post. Mourinho and Mancini carry many of the same characteristics which would make their employment problematic. You've got to the nub of the issue in the part of your post i've quoted above. We need a company man ... someone who will for all intents and purposes be our Wenger/Ferguson by protecting the club first and foremost and never ever playing politics in public the way Mancini has and Mourinho inevitably does.
But I think Arsenal is a broken model and it isn't simply down to unwillingness to spend money. They crave stability and profits, so they're willing to settle for not winning it all anymore. Yes, they won trophies, but they spent to do so. Problem is if you spend and don't win, then you have to make hard decisions. No one has an easier job than Wenger because all he has to do is hold on to a Champions League spot to make sure profits come in and then make excuses. He's become a caricature of a manager.
 
munster said:
I'm not a 'Mancini out' merchant, but IF he goes, the only replacement for me who ticks all the club's boxes is Jurgen Klopp, coach of Dortmund; young, successful, bright, focused on youth etc.

But I hope Bobby ain't going anywhere......

I really want to have steak for my tea tonight. But if I wasn't having steak I'd have chicken. But I do really want steak and I like chicken as well
 

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