Kloppy

Everyone bigging up Klopp, let's not forget that Manuel Pellegrini was a few minutes and an offside goal away from knocking Dortmund out with an inferior Malaga side... By far the more realistic option too.
 
Goose_Grease said:
Everyone bigging up Klopp, let's not forget that Manuel Pellegrini was a few minutes and an offside goal away from knocking Dortmund out with an inferior Malaga side... By far the more realistic option too.
pellegrini is not the right choice to replace mancini hes not really won anything and would be a massive risk considering mancini's actually won the title and an fa cup, however klopp would be good choice to replace mancini if we looking to do so which i personally think we aren't.
 
noise said:
Lol it's not even close, Klopp is easily better at managing players. Just look at the money they earn from Klopp's ability to turn players into superstars. Mancini turns players into flops: Mario, Dzeko, Sinclaire..

Not to mention Klopp is reinventing total football. While Mancini is struggling to get the team to do a simple formation transition.

The point that I'm making is that Klopp has shown himself to be very shrewd indeed at bringing in and using young talent, and he has got them to play very good, exciting football, and I hope they thrash the detestable Bayern in the CL final but this has been done at a club very different to City and in a context very different to that in which City operate. Klopp has played and managed only in Germany, and only at two clubs. He has an intimate knowledge of German football and in particular of young talent in Germany (and in Poland, I suspect, or, at least a scout there who has). The German coaching system actually produces a lot of talent to scout and he makes the most of it. A number go to Dortmund at a very young age. German coaching varies little from club to club I believe.

At City he would find none of this. The youth scheme in England is risible after, at best, years of "neglect". We bemoan the state of the national team and its "dad's army" profile because we've taken no steps to develop kids at all really. At City the academy was geared to a struggling, resourceless club until 2008 and is only now beginning to develop at the level required thanks to our new owners. Does Klop know anything at all about English football? If he does he may well not touch an English club with a bargepole because it seems the skills he has shown are of little relevance to City's needs.

Even if he would come you'd have to convince me and many others that he would be worth sacking a manager a year after he had won the title. This season may be our second best ever. So how much time would Klopp require to transform the team? How long would you give him after the Mancini episode and example? Our demands would apparently be at least a very close second in the league and ... where in the CL? This is unfair to Klopp, scandalously unfair to Mancini and highly improbable. Would we be going for the next surprise package in next season's CL? We're not Roman Abramovich, we just behave exactly like him.... Klop is a brilliant, inspirational coach where he is now, but there's no guarantee that he could bring anything like the same success with him and certainly not quickly enough.
 
Pablo1 said:
hallstreetblue said:
Really sorry for not wanting Mancini. For recognising that he's very average and that he sometimes looks like Steve McClaren against Croatia, but with a City scarf on and without the brolly. Sorry for not thinking he's the best thing since sliced bread and for even thinking that there are much better managers in europe. Sorry for having an opinion on a fan forum. Think I really need to take my head for a f-!*+ng wobble. Sorry.

You don't have to apologise for not thinking Mancini is the man to take us forward - you should probably apologise for coming on here, being as condescending as possible and not getting why people might come to the conclusion that you're a bit of a dick.


Erm....your turn to apologise now!
 
He comes across as a fun Intelligent guy, if he became our manager in the future the media would turn his character around to being a clown no doubt!
 
cityboy1 said:
Goose_Grease said:
Everyone bigging up Klopp, let's not forget that Manuel Pellegrini was a few minutes and an offside goal away from knocking Dortmund out with an inferior Malaga side... By far the more realistic option too.
pellegrini is not the right choice to replace mancini hes not really won anything and would be a massive risk considering mancini's actually won the title and an fa cup, however klopp would be good choice to replace mancini if we looking to do so which i personally think we aren't.
Nobody has won anything until they win something. His performance vs money spent track record certainly suggests he'd do much better than a scraped Premiership and two Champions League group stage exits in four years at Manchester City.
 
i love mancini but he doesn't seem to have that connection with the players, he doesn't seem to praise them enough too but when they do make mistakes he will criticise them and i think that is important to do when your a manager
 
hallstreetblue said:
Really sorry for not wanting Mancini. For recognising that he's very average and that he sometimes looks like Steve McClaren against Croatia, but with a City scarf on and without the brolly. Sorry for not thinking he's the best thing since sliced bread and for even thinking that there are much better managers in europe. Sorry for having an opinion on a fan forum. Think I really need to take my head for a f-!*+ng wobble. Sorry.


Let me guess you get on with everyone when your out, life and soul of the party type right ?
I also bet you annoy nobody at all with your wonderfull non snotty nosed carefree live and let live attitude to life.
 
hallstreetblue said:
Pablo1 said:
hallstreetblue said:
Really sorry for not wanting Mancini. For recognising that he's very average and that he sometimes looks like Steve McClaren against Croatia, but with a City scarf on and without the brolly. Sorry for not thinking he's the best thing since sliced bread and for even thinking that there are much better managers in europe. Sorry for having an opinion on a fan forum. Think I really need to take my head for a f-!*+ng wobble. Sorry.

You don't have to apologise for not thinking Mancini is the man to take us forward - you should probably apologise for coming on here, being as condescending as possible and not getting why people might come to the conclusion that you're a bit of a dick.


Erm....your turn to apologise now!
Only when I'm in the wrong.
 
My criteria for a good manager is someone who has succeeded at more than one club ( obvious exceptions would be those who stayed at one club for ever, Busby, Shankly, Paisley). Mourinho, Mancini and Ferguson all fall into that category. Klopp is "the next big thing" and flavour of the month and may turn out to be a great manager but I'm old enough to remember lots of "next big things" and flavours of the month that didn't make it. I'm happy to give Mancini more time. He's not stupid and wants to sign only top class players or young talent with the potential to be top class. Much like Bayern Munichs attitude. The argument for playing young players is ridiculous. Mancini was brave enough to play Boyata against United in a semi final and Nastasic debuting against Real Madrid and I'm pretty certain that if any of our youngsters were anywhere near ready then he would play them. Why would he not? They don't play because they are not good enough yet.
 

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