Kolo Toure [Merged]

Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

Blue Coop said:
alera said:
If Nedum goes we need to sign 4 central defenders not 3. As Dunne and Ben Haim are DEFINATELY not top 6 players let alone top 4. Kompany is a defenisve midfield player and need for cover in there (when actually fit) richards is a full back.

We have to calm down and think sensibly. We are sturggling to get a couple of players in there that will improve us; Nedum is our best centre half at the moment loose him its just another player we have to replace I wish people would accept this.

I think Kompany is our best Central Defender actually, this is where he played before we put him in Defensive Midfield when we were struggling. He is a fantastic Defender. Easily our best, followed by the ever improving Onouha.

Does anyone feel Onouha could be good as a right back? He certainly has the pace for the wings.

Remembered his passing is sometimes paniced and lacking though isn't it, so his crossing is probably shocking, abit like Micah's, which is why i prefer Zabeletta. Nevermind :)
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

Blue Coop said:
alera said:
If Nedum goes we need to sign 4 central defenders not 3. As Dunne and Ben Haim are DEFINATELY not top 6 players let alone top 4. Kompany is a defenisve midfield player and need for cover in there (when actually fit) richards is a full back.

We have to calm down and think sensibly. We are sturggling to get a couple of players in there that will improve us; Nedum is our best centre half at the moment loose him its just another player we have to replace I wish people would accept this.

I think Kompany is our best Central Defender actually, this is where he played before we put him in Defensive Midfield when we were struggling. He is a fantastic Defender. Easily our best, followed by the ever improving Onouha.

Does anyone feel Onouha could be good as a right back? He certainly has the pace for the wings.

Onouha looks excellent at RB and CB, BUT is he at the level of our undoubted strikers? Hughes doesnt have time - next season its make or break for him and he knows it......our owners [without saying in public] want top 4, and so do the players we have signed......
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

AntMcfc said:
Senderos>Toure. End of. Senderos could be one of the top 10 defenders in the world in a few years given he gets the playing time and confidence. Toure just has nothing going for him, would be a real poor signing.
AntMcfc said:
Kompany is not a DM...

senderos is rubbish, he just doesnt have the concentration or positional sense to make up for his lack of pace. decent in the air, and strong, but rubbish. if arsenal can't make a premiership defender out of him, we won't.

and vinnie came here on the understanding he'd be playing DM. he said it was a positive for him, he enjoyed the role.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

We have 2 decent right backs though ! Yes he can play in there but he can also play in the centre as unlike Richards he can head the ball and actually read the game and get himself in the right positions. Richards does not have the brain to play in the centre !

Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Basically its clear we were looking to sign up to 3 central defenders. To have a top 4 squad we need that sort of number in quality. We were never going to get Terry waste of 3 weeks but there are still quality options out there but they will cost. I have already said I am at the stage where I think £30 million cash for Lescott would be good business as hes 26 left footed english and averages 5 goals from defense a season.

We have forward that played regular last season that did not get that !

I would just like to add that Sendros is completely shit no chance we will sign him.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

AntMcfc said:
Senderos>Toure. End of. Senderos could be one of the top 10 defenders in the world in a few years given he gets the playing time and confidence. Toure just has nothing going for him, would be a real poor signing.

just spat my drink out Reading this. Hope it was tounge in cheek.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

alera said:
We have 2 decent right backs though ! Yes he can play in there but he can also play in the centre as unlike Richards he can head the ball and actually read the game and get himself in the right positions. Richards does not have the brain to play in the centre !

Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Basically its clear we were looking to sign up to 3 central defenders. To have a top 4 squad we need that sort of number in quality. We were never ghoing to get players but there are still quality options out there but they will cost. I have already said I am at the stage where I think £30 million cash for Lescott would be good business as hes 26 left footed english and averages 5 goals from defense a season.

We have forward that played regular last season that did not get that !

I would just like to add that Sendros is completely shit no chance we will sign him.

I would stop at £20m - £22.5m for Lescott.

I would say if we Signed Lescott and Toure, with Kompany and Onouha we have alot of Talent there for Top 4.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

Blue Coop said:
alera said:
We have 2 decent right backs though ! Yes he can play in there but he can also play in the centre as unlike Richards he can head the ball and actually read the game and get himself in the right positions. Richards does not have the brain to play in the centre !

Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Basically its clear we were looking to sign up to 3 central defenders. To have a top 4 squad we need that sort of number in quality. We were never ghoing to get players but there are still quality options out there but they will cost. I have already said I am at the stage where I think £30 million cash for Lescott would be good business as hes 26 left footed english and averages 5 goals from defense a season.

We have forward that played regular last season that did not get that !

I would just like to add that Sendros is completely shit no chance we will sign him.

I would stop at £20m - £22.5m for Lescott.

I would say if we Signed Lescott and Toure, with Kompany and Onouha we have alot of Talent there for Top 4.

I'd stop at £10m for Lescott, he's a good player but £20m? No way. I know the money doesn't matter to us too much, but with £20m Everton could sign 3 players of Lescotts quality. If we're paying ridiculous prices for decent players, give the money to foreign teams please.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

alera said:
Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Is that why he has always played CB for Anderlecht, Hamburg and Belgium?
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

alera said:
We have 2 decent right backs though ! Yes he can play in there but he can also play in the centre as unlike Richards he can head the ball and actually read the game and get himself in the right positions. Richards does not have the brain to play in the centre !

Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Basically its clear we were looking to sign up to 3 central defenders. To have a top 4 squad we need that sort of number in quality. We were never going to get Terry waste of 3 weeks but there are still quality options out there but they will cost. I have already said I am at the stage where I think £30 million cash for Lescott would be good business as hes 26 left footed english and averages 5 goals from defense a season.

We have forward that played regular last season that did not get that !

I would just like to add that Sendros is completely shit no chance we will sign him.

Kompany IS a central defender, it IS his natural position, and he's CLASS!!
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

AntMcfc said:
alera said:
Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Is that why he has always played CB for Anderlecht, Hamburg and Belgium?

Kompany is an awesome CB, definitely his strongest position. I would like to see a Lescott-Kompany partnership developing.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

bluejase said:
AntMcfc said:
Senderos>Toure. End of. Senderos could be one of the top 10 defenders in the world in a few years given he gets the playing time and confidence. Toure just has nothing going for him, would be a real poor signing.

just spat my drink out Reading this. Hope it was tounge in cheek.

Nope, I just know my football, have a good friend who's an Arsenal fan and he'd agree, go to Arsenal-Mania and you'll find the exact same opinion as me. My knowledge of European football is top class, but hey, just keep taking what you read in The Sun as Gospel won't you...
 
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Kompnay played midfield for Hamburg and for us most of the time. I accept he will be used for cover in there though and do a decent job. Personally I think hes better than dejong in midfield though his passing seems better and hes a much bigger stronger player , better suited to the prem. Anyway hes out injured for a couple of months at least so we wont have him available for a while.

I think Kompany and Nedum are awesome backup in there we still need to sign 2 player of the highest quality in there though.

Like I said they are out there and available its going to cost us though. I have said all along I would rather pay Everton £30 million for Lescott than £20 0 £25 million and nedum.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

AntMcfc said:
bluejase said:
just spat my drink out Reading this. Hope it was tounge in cheek.

Nope, I just know my football, have a good friend who's an Arsenal fan and he'd agree, go to Arsenal-Mania and you'll find the exact same opinion as me. My knowledge of European football is top class, but hey, just keep taking what you read in The Sun as Gospel won't you...

BAHAHAHA, you're cracking me up fella.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

Matt Diablo said:
if Everton could buy 3 players of equal quality why aren' we then? You sayin Weez are mugs?

Well yes, other teams are screwing us for every possible penny. It's no-ones fault, it's just what happens.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

wrongun73 said:
why is everyone obsessed by lescott, hangeland and toure would do me...
still think we need another midfielder though

Lescott is left footed though mate so gives cover for left back. I believe Hangeland is the best all round CB out of the 3 and Lescott the best as an attacking threat in the air. Lescott and Hangeland would be the best bet but I wouldn't complain at Toure.
 
Re: toure agrees city move (merged)

Blue Coop said:
alera said:
We have 2 decent right backs though ! Yes he can play in there but he can also play in the centre as unlike Richards he can head the ball and actually read the game and get himself in the right positions. Richards does not have the brain to play in the centre !

Kompany can cover in defence but it is not his natural position.

Basically its clear we were looking to sign up to 3 central defenders. To have a top 4 squad we need that sort of number in quality. We were never ghoing to get players but there are still quality options out there but they will cost. I have already said I am at the stage where I think £30 million cash for Lescott would be good business as hes 26 left footed english and averages 5 goals from defense a season.

We have forward that played regular last season that did not get that !

I would just like to add that Sendros is completely shit no chance we will sign him.

I would stop at £20m - £22.5m for Lescott.

I would say if we Signed Lescott and Toure, with Kompany and Onouha we have alot of Talent there for Top 4.

Shouldn't we focus on playing Zab and Kompany as midfielders and competition for De Jong and Barry? I feel so, they are at level we need to have for our squad defensive midfielders. With Lescott, Toure and Bruno Alves, I feel we are at a level in the heart of the defense where we ought to be.
 

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