Kylian Mbappe

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Marvin said:
If UEFA was such a doddle how come they did us and PSG before?

If this is true, they'll could get banned from the Champions League. They've probably got some plan to uprate their sponsorships. Doubt that will work.
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They are not that stupid.

They will either already have the money, or will have a way of borrowing it which falls in with ffp, through some investment loophole or something.

They don't need Mbappe enough to risk it. They could just buy someone else next season.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
A £160m move to a foreign country playing for a mega club like Madrid trying to get into a team full of world class players doesn't seem the best option. Signing for city for the same amount but having to fight off more players for a place in the team also doesn't seem the best option. I think psg, city and madrid are all great choices for him, but it's not a guarantee what's the best place for him to go.
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Real Madrid is too soon for him. City is perfect. He might not start every game at first but he'd be a regular before the season is out

I'm not convinced PSG can do this, and if Real Madrid are out of it, maybe this is just some ruse to keep the pressure on City to come up with the money. If Monaco and the players agent know that Real Madrid are walking away, then they need someone else in there to keep City paying premium money. (Yes I know that's probably rubbish!)
 
Neville Kneville said:
So they pay it back at 20 mil per year.
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The fee is amortised over the length of the contact, so on a five year deal that would be £30m/yr. Add wages, say at least £250k/wk, and the deal is worth £43m/yr. They would need to finance this in addition to the £80m/yr for Neymar and £18m/yr for Alves. That's about £140m/yr on top of what they were already spending and before taking into account improved wages for their existing players.

There's no way in hell that they'll be able to justify this to UEFA. It will be very interesting if it does happen though, because these world-class players could find themselves trapped in Ligue 1 without Champions League football.
 
Neville Kneville said:
They are not that stupid.

They will either already have the money, or will have a way of borrowing it which falls in with ffp, through some investment loophole or something.

They don't need Mbappe enough to risk it. They could just buy someone else next season.
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They will have something up their sleeve for sure but investment either through debt or equity will not work. Maybe uefa are no longer reducing their Qatar deal. PB would probably know if this is still the case.
 
Homar said:
The fee is amortised over the length of the contact, so on a five year deal that would be £30m/yr. Add wages, say at least £250k/wk, and the deal is worth £43m/yr. They would need to finance this in addition to the £80m/yr for Neymar and £18m/yr for Alves. That's about £140m/yr on top of what they were already spending and before taking into account improved wages for their existing players.

There's no way in hell that they'll be able to justify this to UEFA. It will be very interesting if it does happen though, because these world-class players could find themselves trapped in Ligue 1 without Champions League football.
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Nothing will happen. At all.
 
Jalfraag said:
They will have something up their sleeve for sure but investment either through debt or equity will not work. Maybe uefa are no longer reducing their Qatar deal. PB would probably know if this is still the case.
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We have been talking for years on here about signing Messi if he were available.

Like PSG, we would have a plan which gets round FFP, to do it.
 
1. Rumour going about last week of us and madrid meeting to agree not to spend over x-amount of millions so the price stays the better side of ridiculous. If theres some truth might this PSG interest be a ploy to call our bluffs and get both clubs to up the price.

2. Madrid say Bale stays and no bid from them til next season. Could be the PSG rumours are a ploy to keep a two horse race going and keep the price nice and high.

3. Its all bullshit and PSG (or some PSG fan) just blowing hot air as per usual twitter shite.

Either way. Hope we are defo in for him and we're the only dog left in the hunt. We'd be unreal and make a seismograph smashing statement...

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Homar said:
The fee is amortised over the length of the contact, so on a five year deal that would be £30m/yr. Add wages, say at least £250k/wk, and the deal is worth £43m/yr. They would need to finance this in addition to the £80m/yr for Neymar and £18m/yr for Alves. That's about £140m/yr on top of what they were already spending and before taking into account improved wages for their existing players.

There's no way in hell that they'll be able to justify this to UEFA. It will be very interesting if it does happen though, because these world-class players could find themselves trapped in Ligue 1 without Champions League football.
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Amortised you say ?? So how does that work and how is it counted for ffp ?
 
City_Sean said:
I'm just not sure if Khaldoon will sanction a £100m plus deal. Seems massively fanciful to me.
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If that's the case then I hope we're doing something behind the scenes to sign somebody of real quality up front because as it stands we're leaving ourselves short and reliant on a couple of players remaining fit/free from suspension for the season.
I don't see the Sanchez deal happening so hopefully there's another option that's been kept under wraps.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Nothing will happen. At all.
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I admire your scepticism, but FFP is a web of bullshit. There are clauses that allow UEFA to punish clubs that don't act in good faith and try to inflate income through linked companies or organisations. We were done in by this previously, as we're PSG. And the repeat offender penalties are significant (not just a measly £50m fine)!

If it were so simple to circumvent then PSG could pay the release clause of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Bale, et al. They really are the only club with a bottomless pit of money. They could spend £10bln without batting an eyelid.
 
fucking hell, there's more talk about ffp (hoping someone fails it) here then on ragcafe, rawk or arsenalmania. Sad and pathetic.
 
blue oli said:
Amortised you say ?? So how does that work and how is it counted for ffp ?
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Like a company's balance sheet and profit & loss accounts. The club has income (from tv deals, sponsorships, etc) and expenditure (wages, amortised fees, debt payments, etc). In any year the club can only incur losses of up to about £30m.
 
almir said:
fucking hell, there's more talk about ffp (hoping someone fails it) here then on ragcafe, rawk or arsenalmania. Sad and pathetic.
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Still got another £150 mill burning peps pocket to fuck,until the wankers at UEFA start sniffing around.
 
EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Still got another £150 mill burning peps pocket to fuck,until the wankers at UEFA start sniffing around.
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I'm fine with 500 mil. more but it's unbelievable Jeff how much lot of City fans are talking about PSG and FFP. From all fans, we, who suffered from FFP and which robbed us for at least 2 titles so far. I never thought I'd see this shit here.
 
almir said:
fucking hell, there's more talk about ffp (hoping someone fails it) here then on ragcafe, rawk or arsenalmania. Sad and pathetic.
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So if Arsenal or man Utd failed FFP you wouldn't smile? You are mistaking discussions about its implications with arguments for and against it. We spent a year discussing whether City would get sanctioned.
 
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