Lampard To City On Loan

bumbleblue said:
Pingu the Penguin said:
Like lampard as a player, and think he will help us

Really uncomfortable about the whole situation tho.

He's not our player, but we pay all his wages and he comes to us at our convenience?


Sorry - it stinks, And is a really bad development for football (as opposed to our club)

*Dons tin hat*

I would agree with you Pingu except we have been left with next to no choice other than to develop a business model completely different from .all the rest. We had to create a new business model to escape the tyranny of Platini and gill etc and their ffpr. No way should a billion pound investment Into east Manchester be viewed as negative...only in the warped world of old order G14...and its babbling mouthpiece old mother Arsene.. No choice and I don't blame the sheikh...why should he have his investment hamstrung. ...

I sorta get that. But this isn't really about FFP is it? It's about using our financial power to manipulate the current rules to get useful players. Obv great for us, but surely bad for football?
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
I sorta get that. But this isn't really about FFP is it? It's about using our financial power to manipulate the current rules to get useful players. Obv great for us, but surely bad for football?

Whats the difference between us loaning Lampard or someone from another MLS team?

It has nothing to do with FFP or financial might. NYCFC wants him to play leading up to the start of their season, we're paying his wages. I don't really see the issue.

I expected him to go to Melbourne or even back to Chelsea on loan. Nothing dodgy if ge did, just a convenient arrangement for all parties.
 
moomba said:
Pingu the Penguin said:
I sorta get that. But this isn't really about FFP is it? It's about using our financial power to manipulate the current rules to get useful players. Obv great for us, but surely bad for football?

Whats the difference between us loaning Lampard or someone from another MLS team?

It has nothing to do with FFP or financial might. NYCFC wants him to play leading up to the start of their season, we're paying his wages. I don't really see the issue.

I expected him to go to Melbourne or even back to Chelsea on loan. Nothing dodgy if ge did, just a convenient arrangement for all parties.

So if Frank had signed for LA Galaxy do you think we would have got him?

I'm mega confused about all this. There does appear to be a master plan to manipulate events to our benefit. Well done to all those involved for delivering that

But is it good for football?

Apply "the rag" test to this - if they did it how would you feel?
 
You've got it backwards mate. We are conducting business in an efficient and effective manor. If we've not broken rules why are they always trying to create new ones after we do something spectacular. Frank keeps fit and we get an english player for even more depth in midfiend, and he so happens to be a Chelsea legend, for free.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
moomba said:
Pingu the Penguin said:
I sorta get that. But this isn't really about FFP is it? It's about using our financial power to manipulate the current rules to get useful players. Obv great for us, but surely bad for football?

Whats the difference between us loaning Lampard or someone from another MLS team?

It has nothing to do with FFP or financial might. NYCFC wants him to play leading up to the start of their season, we're paying his wages. I don't really see the issue.

I expected him to go to Melbourne or even back to Chelsea on loan. Nothing dodgy if ge did, just a convenient arrangement for all parties.

So if Frank had signed for LA Galaxy do you think we would have got him?

I'm mega confused about all this. There does appear to be a master plan to manipulate events to our benefit. Well done to all those involved for delivering that

But is it good for football?

Apply "the rag" test to this - if they did it how would you feel?

It was his choice not ours. He was asked if he wanted to go on loan to Melbourne and he said he'd rather come here.
I'm struggling to see what point you're making. He was out of contract, if we wanted, we could have signed him City and then sold him to NY. Now that would have been talking the piss.
Nothing underhand has gone on and we're certainly not abusing the loan system. If you want an example of that look no further than Chelsea. They buy up all the young talent that has already been developed at other clubs. Send them out on loan to see if they are any good and then either sell them for profit or promote to the first team.
 
Champions2012! said:
Chelsea fans are going mental about this

And I'm loving it

Its all very strange. He's a player they didn't offer a contract to and now they moan like fuck.

Imagine if it was us with the Goat. We let him leave to join Southend and then for example Wigan took him on loan from them. Would we be going ape? No we'd be looking forward to seeing a legend play against us.

Suppose it sums up us blues and those tossers.
 
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The hypocrisy of Wenger's comments on this really grinds my gears.

Under his stewardship Arsenal (and United) used to hoover up the best young talent from around the world and then farm them out to 'feeder clubs' in order for them to qualify for a work permit.....Yet what we have done with Lampard is dodgy.

F*ck him. I really hope Lampard bags a goal against them this weekend.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
moomba said:
Pingu the Penguin said:
I sorta get that. But this isn't really about FFP is it? It's about using our financial power to manipulate the current rules to get useful players. Obv great for us, but surely bad for football?

Whats the difference between us loaning Lampard or someone from another MLS team?

It has nothing to do with FFP or financial might. NYCFC wants him to play leading up to the start of their season, we're paying his wages. I don't really see the issue.

I expected him to go to Melbourne or even back to Chelsea on loan. Nothing dodgy if ge did, just a convenient arrangement for all parties.

So if Frank had signed for LA Galaxy do you think we would have got him?

I'm mega confused about all this. There does appear to be a master plan to manipulate events to our benefit. Well done to all those involved for delivering that

But is it good for football?

Apply "the rag" test to this - if they did it how would you feel?

Clint Dempsey left Fulham went to Spurs then to the MLS team Seattle Sounders only to go back on loan to Fulham until the MLS season started back up.

If it's about the unique relationship that we have being owners of the MLS club, I still have yet to find any quotes of Arse speaking about Udinese/Grenada/Watford and how Watford almost won promotion with over half their players being loaned from their owners other two clubs. Watford would not of been able to get most of those players if it wasn't for their owner. The sheer amount of players they loaned at one time made them change the rules and most notably Vydra ended up going to West Brom but I don't see us ever doing anything quite on the level of what Watford did.
 

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