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Going to stick my oar in and say, my reaction was similair to Bill. I thought they were all very good performances. And the plausability of their tragedy, being down to the way they all needed to see themselves and each other, and how this led to everything being messed up - clicked nicely together in my head right before the final section.
I really liked Jodie Comer. The guys seemed to see her as something she wasn't. Aware of potential interpretations of little gestures or subtleties in interactions which never occured to her. Her character was a very intelligent and capable girl full of but she wasn't the most socially experienced, or a particularly worldly person when it came to other people. Maybe from some perspectives, she was a touch naive compared to the idea of the cunning, loving, seductive, peacekeeping woman mother daughter and lover who was always using her charm strategically.
But I saw it she didn't want to come out of it. She wanted the old garden back, and to be a mother. She did want to go to the party, but it wasn't about social status. Actually she was a kind of shy person. I saw her as this person who rolls their eyes and makes movements that are quite noticable at you, but they don't mean anything really, it's just part of people like that, just their usual exterior costume. They know people are watching them and sort of give them a show. Sort of how I'd cope when I was younger. It totally fits with what she wanted, the orchard from her childhood. That's a shy person's heaven.
Equally I thought the guys were good. Adam Driver totally corrupted by the company he was keeping feeding him women to rape and throw away. Poor Matt Damon, as uptight and proud and wooden a victim of chivalry as you can see. The expectation that he had earned respect. He was a killer. Was he anything more honorable on the field? The people who should have known what a price it is to pay, to earn your money killing to serve your masters, looked down their noses at him because they'd moved up in the world. The others, who never saw him in battle, just experienced this guy at the mercy of his wounded and frustrated pride.
I thought Ridley and the scriptwriter did well. I thought it made some noise about how arbitrary and political ALL of their systems of justice were. Our systems today have the same basic flaw, but... are we usually a little bit wiser now? Not perfect, but do we have some idea, or are we as far from ever from the impossible ideal of real impartial and wise justice?
I was most disappointed by Ridley opting just to show the wives throwing looks of disgust at their husbands which were never caught. Too many of them. Would all the women have sympathised like that, yet remain unable to even let their husbands know in any subtle way? Apart from that, pretty much the whole thing worked for me.
I especially liked the hollowness of the crowd scenes at the end. What on earth do you reckon they would have felt after all that? The world is a crazy place, and people are complicated, selfish, crazy, and it all gets chaotic. I think Comer's character had it about right. Sitting under trees is about as good as it gets.
I really liked Jodie Comer. The guys seemed to see her as something she wasn't. Aware of potential interpretations of little gestures or subtleties in interactions which never occured to her. Her character was a very intelligent and capable girl full of but she wasn't the most socially experienced, or a particularly worldly person when it came to other people. Maybe from some perspectives, she was a touch naive compared to the idea of the cunning, loving, seductive, peacekeeping woman mother daughter and lover who was always using her charm strategically.
But I saw it she didn't want to come out of it. She wanted the old garden back, and to be a mother. She did want to go to the party, but it wasn't about social status. Actually she was a kind of shy person. I saw her as this person who rolls their eyes and makes movements that are quite noticable at you, but they don't mean anything really, it's just part of people like that, just their usual exterior costume. They know people are watching them and sort of give them a show. Sort of how I'd cope when I was younger. It totally fits with what she wanted, the orchard from her childhood. That's a shy person's heaven.
Equally I thought the guys were good. Adam Driver totally corrupted by the company he was keeping feeding him women to rape and throw away. Poor Matt Damon, as uptight and proud and wooden a victim of chivalry as you can see. The expectation that he had earned respect. He was a killer. Was he anything more honorable on the field? The people who should have known what a price it is to pay, to earn your money killing to serve your masters, looked down their noses at him because they'd moved up in the world. The others, who never saw him in battle, just experienced this guy at the mercy of his wounded and frustrated pride.
I thought Ridley and the scriptwriter did well. I thought it made some noise about how arbitrary and political ALL of their systems of justice were. Our systems today have the same basic flaw, but... are we usually a little bit wiser now? Not perfect, but do we have some idea, or are we as far from ever from the impossible ideal of real impartial and wise justice?
I was most disappointed by Ridley opting just to show the wives throwing looks of disgust at their husbands which were never caught. Too many of them. Would all the women have sympathised like that, yet remain unable to even let their husbands know in any subtle way? Apart from that, pretty much the whole thing worked for me.
I especially liked the hollowness of the crowd scenes at the end. What on earth do you reckon they would have felt after all that? The world is a crazy place, and people are complicated, selfish, crazy, and it all gets chaotic. I think Comer's character had it about right. Sitting under trees is about as good as it gets.