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Because it turns blockbuster films into box office bombs?

Unlike you and Bigga I'm not a reader/consumer of the comic books but it's obvious that Robin just doesn't work in the mass market self-contained universe films.

Makes sense as a potential successor though which would fit with Bigga's theory of him coming in at the end.

Maybe the directors and producers will be bold enough to emulate the ending of No time to to die.

I read these books into my early 20s, some 30 years ago.

They struck a chord with me that have stayed. Luckily I'm no expert on any modern day version of this arc.
 
That was already the ending of The Dark Knight Rises

Im a huge Batman fan meaning the mythology built around him. I enjoy the Batman, but I felt it was just a stylish version of a story I have already seen. Push the story forward, break new ground

The story has been told a fair few times, but always with a lighter tone.

I think this version is breaking new ground, visiting the psyche of the man behind the mask, behind the mask.

That's why he skin he's most comfortable in, is not his own.

I didn't know you had seen the new version and I'd like to know you picked up from it.

It might be best to use the spoilers block, though.
 
It was hinted at with Robin abut I meant more of just a nod and a wink and Wayne/Batman actually dying not just presumed dead. Maybe a death halfway through a movie rather than just at the end?

How do you break new ground with a comic book IP? Stylistic and use of different story telling devices is the only way surely?

But, whilst in the comics, Wayne just becomes a recluse again, 'The Batman' never dies. He just mentors his young charge in the role.
 
I read these books into my early 20s, some 30 years ago.

They struck a chord with me that have stayed. Luckily I'm no expert on any modern day version of this arc.

Fair enough. Wasn't meant in judgement of comic book nerd culture anyway. We all have our own nerdy interests.

The only nerd subcultures I object to are toxic fandoms that hype up the old back catalogues and dump on anything new and divergent because it "RuInS ThEiR ChILdhOoD".

E. g. Ghostbusters Afterlife might have been an interesting film if the new characters weren't just two dimensional placeholders whilst it meandered to the point where the old wrinklies can come back and save the day and delight the superfans.
 
But, whilst in the comics, Wayne just becomes a recluse again, 'The Batman' never dies. He just mentors his young charge in the role.

Could make sense if Wayne develops a degenerative disease that makes him unable to wear the suit and work in the field, even if he wanted to.

Wayne dying whilst out of action and having passed on the mantle to Robin to become the Batman in the 2nd or 3rd Act of the last film.
 
Where does Robin fit into this universe?
Well, that's an intriguing question.

Technically speaking, 'Robin' would be in the 12-15 age range if you factored things in properly. As it happens, 'The Batman' is much older when 'Dick Grayson' comes along as he's only just off his own training wheels in this film.

That means he'd be dealing with an emotional child who also witnessed his parents' murder and has as deep a burning rage and anger as 'Bruce Wayne'.

Can't see him in this trilogy, but towards the end of it, really, as there's so much to tell without a sidekick.
I think they're trying to use source material, but not be bound by it. That's why The Riddler was different and also why Catwoman's storyline was different. So i think the worlds your oyster really for Robin, he could just come in as a kid affected by what happened in the first film and blame Batman for it all or he could just be a new character. I think this Batman just gives opportunities to try some new things.
 

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