Laurence Fox launches political party

[MillionMilesAway]

Is Fox position that it is wrong for a company to set up a safe zone because the company thinks it's a good idea?

That's a weird thing to start on. It seems equitable and voluntary.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I agree, why would the chat be political though. We have a safe space for our mental health workshops that is for respite or reflection away from what is being discussed as a lot of what is said can be pretty disturbing. Abuse of any kind can be disturbing and harmful, a place to escape helps people cope.

I wouldn't want it to be used to make or hold political rallies/speeches etc, if during our workshops political points are made and they are made, then it should be in the workshop not in a safe quiet space.

I agree with that - a forum is very different to a safe zone, as I see it.

 

[Fame Monster]

Do you actually know what a safe space is? You know it has nothing to do with crime?



Also you do realise this sentence is 100% at odds with what you wrote earlier?

A safe space is to do with safety. The clue is in the name. If you are in a situation where you are more likely to be a victim of a crime, you are not safe. But I don't really care what you want to try and redefine it as, the bottom line is, if it's a space for people of a certain ethnicity and everyone else is excluded, I disagree with it. More so if you label it a 'safe space'.

Btw, I said about 3 pages ago that that was wrong and that actually strengthened the point that people are more likely to be unsafe with people of the same race.

See below.

That stat may be wrong actually but it's correct to say that most interracial violence is black on white violence but white on white violence is far more prevalent than black on white violence. Likewise, black on black violence is far more common than white on black violence which reinforces my point more.

Single race spaces are not 'safe spaces'.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Is Fox position that it is wrong for a company to set up a safe zone because the company thinks it's a good idea?

That's a weird thing to start on. It seems equitable and voluntary.

I must confess I've not really thought about this much, but it seems to me that if you need to create a safe space for anyone within the workspace then there are some serious things wrong with the rest of the workspace.

 

[BobKowalski]

Talking of culture warriors it seems brave Ms Hopkins got caught in the blowback...

 

[domalino]

A safe space is to do with safety. The clue is in the name. If you are in a situation where you are more likely to be a victim of a crime, you are not safe. But I don't really care what you want to try and redefine it as, the bottom line is, if it's a space for people of a certain ethnicity and everyone else is excluded, I disagree with it. More so if you label it a 'safe space'.

Btw, I said about 3 pages ago that that was wrong and that actually strengthened the point that people are more likely to be unsafe with people of the same race.

See below.

Oh christ you actually think a safe space is about physical safety from crime.

 

[Fame Monster]

Oh christ you actually think a safe space is about physical safety from crime.

Just for the hard of thinking, harassment, abuse, discrimination and emotional harm can also amount to crime along with causing physical harm, and they can also be committed by people of all races.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Talking of culture warriors it seems brave Ms Hopkins got caught in the blowback...

she would have had no choice having already bankrupted herself once by running off at the mouth the stupid mare - anyway what is she doing tweeting? Thought she was banned or had fucked it off? I presume as Parler is a meeting place for like minded people its harder to moneytise bile on there?

 

[hilts]

Nigel Farage spearheaded Brexit and won. Underestimate him at your peril.

They did underestimate him and it caused their salty tears, lot of anger there. Whatever ones opinion of him unsuccessful he wasn’t.

 

[Fame Monster]

Why would anyone have a problem with any safe spaces for anybody at all. White men traditionally had a safe space called a vault, most pubs had them.

Are single sex safe spaces not safe spaces then?

The big differences between single sex spaces and racial 'safe spaces' are that:

1. Statistically, men are the biggest threat to women's safety. People of different races don't pose the same disproportionate danger that men do to women so the intellectual basis for any kind of racial apartheid is weak and before some of the extremists have come out of the woodwork the past few months, it was widely debunked.

2. There is a big, biological difference between men and women that explains (but doesn't justify) why they might be more of a threat towards women. Outside some cranks on the right and left of politics, no-one believes such a big difference exists between people of different 'races' therefore the justification is a lot weaker.

3. Men and women both have their own safe spaces. Women aren't allowed to go into men's toilets either so there is a level of equality. That doesn't exist if white people are discriminated from having safe spaces because 'they've not been discriminated against in the past' or whatever else nonsense argument is put forward for it.