Never understood why racists don't just admit they are racist? They always dance around it, try and pretend that's not what it is, how it's actually about something else, something noble. I'd probably have more respect for them if they just admitted they were racist instead of putting up all the bullshit pretence, as all it does is show that they know their feelings are actually wrong so don't want to openly admit that's what it is.
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Laurence Fox launches political party
- Thread starter Ric
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Even moral philosophers are no more moral than the average person. You might expect that they would be more virtuous than other people because reasoning about ethical principles is their day job.
But the evidence suggests that they aren't. The philosopher Eric Schwitzgebel has investigated this. He used surveys and more surreptitious methods to measure how often moral philosophers give to charity, vote, call their mothers, donate blood, donate organs, clean up after themselves at philosophy conferences, and respond to e-mails purportedly from students. And in none of these ways are moral philosophers better than any other philosophers or professors in the field.
Schwitzgebel even scrounged up the missing-book lists from dozens of libraries and found that academic books on ethics, which are presumably borrowed mostly by ethicists, are more likely to be stolen or just never returned than books in other areas of philosophy.
In other words, expertise in moral reasoning does not seem to improve ethical behaviour, and it might even make it worse, perhaps by making them more adept at coming up with post-hoc justifications for their behaviour.
Schwitzgebel still has yet to find a single measure according to which moral philosophers behave better than others. philosophers.
Right. Back to trying to think up an infallible, a priori, analytic and purely deductive (as opposed to inductive and empirical) proof that Jacob Rees-Mogg is a complete and utter ****.
Expecting a moral philosopher to be more moral than a normal person is akin to expecting an oncologist to never get cancer.
squirtyflower
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It amazes me how the ‘friendly caring posters’ don’t mind being either sexist or ageistIt really is amazing how much of this "culture war" essentially boils down to middle or old aged men being told that the past wasn't actually that great for everyone else and being unable to accept it.
You see it a lot with Fox's biggest pet peeve - people criticising the British Empire. He's a posh little boy who grew up thinking the Empire was the golden age of Britain, and now the people on the other side of those conquests and occupations are telling their side, Fox and Friends think they're being attacked personally because the 1 sided history they grew up with and idolised and tied to their concepts of being British and great isn't the whole story.
squirtyflower
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You’re normally right on lots of things, but on this you are wrong.They didn't start the culture wars, the right have been undermining the culture of this country for decades. They started with the destruction of working class communities and the values they held whilst replacing them with the rich mans version of individualism and dog eat dog capitalism.
Destroying society and communities leads to vacuums and the right are responsible for creating those vacuums.
You have made some excellent post about how the middle class left have ruined the Labour Party. They are also the ones active in the rifts they are creating within society, that are being labelled Culture Wars.
The whole thing this summer was, it wasn’t just a slave trader who got the statue removed, they also attacked other monuments, statues and the bloody police.Was taking down statues of slave traders the start of the culture war?
Or was it leaving them up for the past 20+ years despite multiple widespread and popular campaigns to remove them over that period?
It was a completely hysterical response to something that happened in another country, when 4 Christians are murdered in France, you know our nearest neighbour, in the same year, for being Christian, total silence on the matter.
Why not?
Rascal is unfortunately falling into the very trap that he also speaks out about.You’re normally right on lots of things, but on this you are wrong.
You have made some excellent post about how the middle class left have ruined the Labour Party. They are also the ones active in the rifts they are creating within society, that are being labelled Culture Wars.
Once Brexit is over it’s “social justice” that will stop Labour getting elected and will trample down further on democratic socialism.
Why do people who make accusations of racism never say who and what exactly that person has said?Never understood why racists don't just admit they are racist? They always dance around it, try and pretend that's not what it is, how it's actually about something else, something noble. I'd probably have more respect for them if they just admitted they were racist instead of putting up all the bullshit pretence, as all it does is show that they know their feelings are actually wrong so don't want to openly admit that's what it is.
It’s shouting fire without actually pointing to the flames.
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blueinsa
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Why do people who make accusations of racism never say who and what exactly that person has said?
It’s shouting fire without actually pointing to the flames.
It is the easy and sadly, now default position for some. You don't agree with me so you must be a racist.
2+2=5 but lets ignore that, someone is in a convenient box and the accuser can feel smug about himself for a while.
The whole thing this summer was, it wasn’t just a slave trader who got the statue removed, they also attacked other monuments, statues and the bloody police.
It was a completely hysterical response to something that happened in another country, when 4 Christians are murdered in France, you know our nearest neighbour, in the same year, for being Christian, total silence on the matter.
Why not?
At this point its like you are playing Lawrence fox bingo.
Oh when will someone finally speak up against those terrorist attacks that were met with absolutely universal condemnation world wide!!
journolud
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Yeah, to be fair young people can be racist too, women as well"middle or old aged men"
Yet more bigoted shite being peddled.
You lot that shout the loudest are the worst.